Actually, the Futurama version reminds me more of Abby Normal - 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH97lImrr0Q

Oh, and poor attempts at humour are my defense against bad news - this time 
about Glen.  I can sympathize - this time last year I had just been told I 
don't have lymphoma.  Of course, what I have is, as usual, a disease of unknown 
origin with symptomatic treatment at best.  There's a reason that what doctors 
do is called "practice".

Ray Parks
Consilient Heuristician/IDART Old-Timer
V: 505-844-4024  M: 505-238-9359  P: 505-951-6084
NIPR: [email protected]
SIPR: [email protected] (send NIPR reminder)
JWICS: [email protected] (send NIPR reminder)



On Sep 24, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:

> Right! 
> 
> http://alcor.org/AtWork/index.html
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Parks, Raymond
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 9:39 AM
> To: '[email protected]' <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: I am Cancer, hear me roar! (with segue 
> into Chimerism and Epigenetics)
> 
> It would be much more convenient to store your head in a jar, a la Futurama.  
> And more comedic.
> 
> Ray Parks
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marcus Daniels [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 09:33 AM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [FRIAM] I am Cancer, hear me roar! (with segue into 
> Chimerism and Epigenetics)
> 
> Well, I assume that if my connectome could be scanned with sufficient 
> fidelity, and stored in a computer, that it would be possible, someday, to 
> both query my memories, but also to measure emotional responses, in silico.  
> Probably even start and stop consciousness.    The trick would be figuring 
> out the interfaces, but obvious places to start would be the visual cortex, 
> auditory centers, and various incoming nerves.    It could sort of be 
> approaches as a machine learning problem, like is beginning to be done with 
> replacement limbs.  
> 
> Sure there are aspects of my physical self that are slightly unique to me, 
> but I would expect they are modularized.   The experience of running, typing, 
> and so on.   But those things aren't me.   If anything, it would seem to be 
> thrilling to experience other real or simulated nervous systems.  
> 
> Yes, I know, what huge waste of disk space!
> Btw, what rights do the dead have to their own memories?   A whole new field 
> of IP law!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Smith
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 9:22 AM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: [FRIAM] I am Cancer, hear me roar! (with segue into Chimerism and 
> Epigenetics)
> 
> Glen/Nick -
>>> Having said that, am I allowed to say, "Crap!  I wish you didn't have 
>>> cancer!'
>> Of course.  Thanks.  But just to be argumentative,
> ...
>> I am cancer.  It's probably not true of all cancers, though.
> I recently had a long conversation with a Muslim friend from Australia who 
> donated her bone marrow to her sister to replace hers after it was 
> deliberately destroyed by chemo/rad to stop *her* cancer.
> 
> This was against Islamic law but she and her family felt like they had still 
> done the right thing.  She is now hyper aware that her sister is a 
> Chimera, though she didn't have the term for it.   She believes that her 
> sister underwent a radical personality change after the 
> transplant/recovery and wants to attribute it to the "transplant".   At 
> first I wanted to dismiss this but on a little reflection and study,  I am 
> more sympathetic to her position.
> 
> The  more I read about hematopoietic cell transplant and lateral genetic 
> transference, the curiouser it all gets!  I feel like we need the molecular 
> biology equivalent of Oliver Sacks (RIP) in the house to bring a more popular 
> understanding to the table of this fascinating field!
> 
> I was fascinated as a child to learn about tree grafting in nut and citrus 
> orchards, and later organ transplants in humans, but this goes a 
> step further since it is roughly "systemic".   This also lead me to 
> reflect on birth-chimeras where multiple zygotes fuse early on to yield a 
> single fetus and ultimately full human organism but with a mixture of cells 
> with filial genomics.
> 
> I have friends who are "mirror" twins who each have a third nipple on 
> opposite sides of their body (slightly lower than the conventional location). 
>  They believed this to suggest that they had begun as triplets and that there 
> was such a fusion during the early embryological 
> process.   I didn't recognize any other chimeric properties (sometimes 
> evidenced by piebald skin or hair markings).
> 
> This is NOT your father's Genetics!   My father studied biology in the 
> late 1940s, my own molecular biology experience is roughly circa 1984, and my 
> daughter's PhD in molecular biology is only about 7 years old now, yet *even 
> her* "book larnin' " in the general field, and in particular epigenetics is 
> getting stale fast!
> 
> - Steve
> 
> ============================================================
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe 
> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
> 
> ============================================================
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe 
> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
> 
> ============================================================
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe 
> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
> 
> ============================================================
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Attachment: smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

============================================================
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Reply via email to