my comment: https://www.quantamagazine.org/20151216-physicists-and-philosophers-debate-the-boundaries-of-science/
By: Natalie Wolchover December 16, 2015 Comments (61) Physicists George Ellis (center) and Joe Silk (right) at Ludwig Maximilian University in Munich on Dec. 7. Physicists typically think they “need philosophers and historians of science like birds need ornithologists,” the Nobel laureate David Gross told a roomful of philosophers, historians and physicists last week in Munich, Germany, paraphrasing Richard Feynman. ..... layman, 73, Imperial Beach, California -- Scientific American level about all aspects of science -- spiritually enlightened a la Dzogchen, Zen, Franklin Merrell-Wolff, Joel Sol Goldsmith, ACIM, Advaita, nonduality, We Space -- this is experimentally scientific via allowing the same level of expanded awareness to be acknowledged by flexible sharing face-to-face or via video chat -- I savored the article and all comments, so want to experiment with offering some clues from beyond all boxes -- yes, entanglement of every item with every other, as each is always already forever intimately all of single entire spontaneous creative unified open fractal hyperinfinity -- the appearance of these very little crooked word le t t e r s right now within visual space of awareness... here is a possible jumping off point for noticing a higher level awareness background -- so, "causality" is multidimensional and instantaneous and multidirectional and discontinuous, uh, co-dependent co-origination, so things, histories, and beings are so transient and ever changing that nothing fixed or even repetitive ever exists -- yet infinite symphonic improvisations seem within themselves to be reality systems with agents and lawful patterns -- Charlie may indeed succeed in kicking the football, but almost always Lucy snatches it away, as he flips dazed on his back -- a few of you will resonate with these words, realizing they are far from incoherent -- laughter is a very good outcome ... note that the empirical process of all sciences the last 500 years since Galileo expands exponentially in all aspects, faster and faster, so this by now is strong evidence that the play is forever, even for as simple a game as the theory of integers... On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Nick Thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > > > I didn’t altogether follow you here. > > > > Can you say a bit more? > > > > N > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Patrick > Reilly > *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:13 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Physicists and Philosophers Debate the Boundaries > of Science | Quanta Magazine > > > > Hi Tom: > > > > Thanks for turning me on to this article. It's valuable to known that we > are likely 10 EE15 degrees away from observing the true fundamentals of > physics. > > > > On another note, the discussion of the "rationalists" v. "empiricists" > crystallized in me how to best argue against Libertarian-hacks and Marxist > fops; the imagined "principles" of political and economic dynamics empowers > empiricists to promise candy mountains when we are better off observing the > actual effect of actually instantiated policies and laws. The US used to be > the world leader in social pragmatism . . . > > > > Great article! > > > > --- Pat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 3:59 AM, Tom Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Something to keep you occupied until New Years Day. > > > https://www.quantamagazine.org/20151216-physicists-and-philosophers-debate-the-boundaries-of-science/ > > =================================== > Tom Johnson - Inst. for Analytic Journalism > Santa Fe, NM > SPJ Region 9 Director > [email protected] 505-473-9646 > =================================== > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > > > > > -- > > The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged and > confidential information. It is intended only for the use of the person(s) > named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of > this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies > of the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, > please send an email to [email protected]. > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >
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