Slightly OT, but: The Brexit signaled the start of truly unexpected events.
Italy, btw, is also having a referendum.

But here's the Dallas News endorsing Hilary .. first dem endorsment in over
70 years!

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/20160907-we-recommend-hillary-clinton-for-u.s.-president.ece

l guess these are the years of Expect the Unexpected!

   -- Owen

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Steven A Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> I know we try to avoid getting into political discussions here, and that
> is not what I'm trying t draw you into.  Out of my infamous morbid
> fascination, I *have* been following the presidential campaigns this past
> year or more and in particular comparing the many running *polls* to the
> *Iowa Electronic Markets*
>
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/ge
> neral_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
>
>     https://tippie.biz.uiowa.edu/iem/
>
> It is most interesting to me how much the WTA vs the popular vote prices
> in the IEM diverge.  It definitely supports MY (reluctant) preferences in
> this context, but it IS disturbing in a democracy that the representative
> factor (electoral college in this case) seems to either magnify a small
> lead, or even perhaps bias it?
>
> The polls seem to be somewhat "all over the place" which I suspect
> reflects the methodology for sampling the population in each case.
>  Perhaps someone here has some professional experience with polling
> methodologies or theory can illuminate a little?
>
> This has impact on the debates.  At this point, it looks like the Libs and
> the Greens will be shut out of the upcoming debates, in spite of the likely
> absurdity of a Trump/Clinton debate, given their personal styles and
> stances.  3rd party debaters would surely add some signal to what is likely
> to be nearly purely noise otherwise?
>
> As a side note, I am disappointed with how little traction either Gary or
> Jill are getting this time around.  As UNpopular as both of the primary
> candidates are, and as relatively acceptable (both Jill and Gary seem to
> have serious intentions, serious campaigns and serious platforms)
> candidates are, why don't we see higher/growing polling numbers?  Is it the
> ominosity of the elections themselves?  Everyone is afraid of creating a
> "spoiler"?
>
> This re-invigorates my interest in Ranked Voting Systems.  Do we have any
> Psephologists (pebble counters) in the house with insight into Ranked
> Voting Systems?
>
> http://www.fairvote.org/ seems to be the main organization promoting RVS
> at the national level but I don't see a roadmap of what it would take to
> actually change our system to embrace this?
>
>
>
>
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