Pamela,
People do a lot of silly stuff when they talk about whether animals suffer, as if some kind of death is something that could be avoided. But speaking as somebody who studied animals for 50 years, I am pretty sure that gluing a mouse to a board and throwing it in the garbage causes suffering. nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pamela McCorduck Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 6:50 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Mouse issue Oh, I just paid them a lot to “seal” the house. Joe and I lived with the mice and removed him with ways animal rights people would not approve of, but we didn’t need professionals. (Lots of activated charcoal bags to keep the smell down as putrefying mice had died where their corpses couldn’t be got at.) Animal rightists: I have my space; they have theirs. I am not the least ashamed of keeping those boundaries clear. Yes, in the very old days, I used mousing cats. Better? On Nov 6, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Tom Johnson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: We are having the same problem. Supposedly Critter Control "sealed" the house. Huh? Yeah, the joke's on us. So far I've resorted to buying quantities of traps from Amazon. See https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CH01PA4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8 <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CH01PA4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1> &psc=1 TJ ============================================ Tom Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) Society of Professional Journalists <http://www.spj.org/> Check out It's The People's Data <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-The-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671> http://www.jtjohnson.com <http://www.jtjohnson.com/> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ============================================ On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Gillian Densmore <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I have a problem that I need help solving. Mice. History: About 8-9 days ago I found out I have a mouse problem. I tried calling the city's pest controll to evict them before matters got worse. They told me they don't deel with mice. Problems: I can only guess just how bad the problem is. But it's safe to guess they're in the walls and or pipes someplace, because i've thumped at least 4 possibly 5 the upstairs bathroom wich is...problematic at best. Also It turns out I have a small feer of mice leading to rambling incorehently on the phone to fam about the fuckers, a issue I am trying to resolve as best I can. Thank god for having some vallium on hand and some martial arts experience to stay calmER so that instead of pestering fam like calling them at 8pm on a Thursday to bich about them starting with Oh fuck their's a mouse and it's in my very nice and expensive tea, and it's friends are trying to go foraging on the kitchen table (Even though it was cleaned with bleach) I think what set me on tilte more than usual was trying to do some of the PT excersizes getting up and finding out calmly waching me looking both interested and perplexed--then going to bed for and finding a different one on my bed munching on something looking at me like he/she owned the house. I'm sure my rant and and the hell do I do I asked dad about will go down in history eventually. Question: What steps can I take in addition to take convince them the fams casita is deadly. So far I've put out easly 20 unique claptraps. The traditional kind. With help from my friend sabina we started on massive spring cleaning that was probably over do anyway. I keep running out of traps to put out. Between being pretting sure it's not getting to the root of the problem and running out clap traps. I have no clue what else can be done: What else can be done? ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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