Well, it *is* a 2010 paper. Still relevant to the current contretemps I think.
The more recent article (which I found to be fun but a bit less coherent (see, how that works!) is at: https://www.quantamagazine.org/20160421-the-evolutionary-argument-against-reality/ Atlantic picked it up later. Can anyone really talk to anyone? I'm thinking about compositionality and languages and Open Source Insurgencies: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/networks_compositionality/ and http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/thermo/pollard_santa_fe.pdf and hmm, Google "open source warfare" (careful now) and, one of my favorites right now is how very local traditional musics and oral traditions get transformed into and by different cultural processes: (this will be Japanese to most folks, apologies sort of) https://estoestaiko.com/2015/12/07/chichibu-yatai-bayashi/ Carl Carl On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Nick Thompson <nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Carl – > > > > I would have thought that these results had been shown years ago, > particularly with respect to self perception. There is probably very > little harm in quite a lot of over self-confidence. > > > > Interestingly, there’s an old result from years ago that married couples > who are balmy about each other’s capacities do better than couples who are > more realistic. > > > > It’s good to hear from you. > > > > nICK > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl > Tollander > *Sent:* Sunday, December 04, 2016 9:37 PM > > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Autocracy: Rules for Survival | by Masha Gessen | > NYR Daily | The New York Review of Books > > > > Got this from an link from the Hoffman article in the Atlantic on > "reality". Regardless of the niftiness of the paper, I think it's > interesting that somebody is using games to model how truth has come to > fare so badly in our politics. Talks up some varieties of realism, so, hi, > Nick. > > > > http://cogsci.uci.edu/~ddhoff/PerceptualEvolution.pdf > > > > If there is anything to this, my reading is that paywalls and "click here > to disable your ad blocker before you can continue reading" sorts of > activities by online media are a strong disservice to the polity and need > to come down. > > > > This is also stimulating some thought on" lingusitic determinism" vs > "linguistic relativism" brought up by the "Arrival" movie. Never been much > for "deep structure" linguistic theories. > > > > Carl > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Jochen Fromm <j...@cas-group.net> wrote: > > Yes, looks interesting (somehow my mail client does not show all FRIAM > mails, for instance I don't see Nicks mails, I have only received Merles > response?). > > > > From a complexity science viewpoint the development in the US is > interesting, whether it will be a step back into an oligarchy or autocracy, > or even some kind of cronyism, nepotism, nationalism, imperialism or > fascism, because all these *-isms are like a cancer for society. There are > all sorts of fascisms, similar to the many different forms of cancer. > > > > From a psychological perspective Mr. Trump is interesting too because he > is obviously not a normal politician. Narcissism is mentioned frequently as > a character trait. > > http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/the- > mind-of-donald-trump/480771/ > > > > As a European from a continent with a troubled past I'm worried that the > next 4 years will not turn out well. There will be an unpleasant wakeup > when people recognize they have been betrayed and there is no peaceful way > back into a glorified past in a globalized world. I bet there will be some > kind of staged event which will lead to the next war or a totalitarian > state. > > > > -Jochen > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Merle Lefkoff <merlelefk...@gmail.com> > > Date: 12/4/16 21:57 (GMT+01:00) > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> > > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Autocracy: Rules for Survival | by Masha Gessen | NYR > Daily | The New York Review of Books > > > > Nick, thanks so much for sending this. I just sent it to one of our donors > and to my Canadian grad students and to our social network. It's > wonderfully written, although hardly "beginning a badly needed > conversation." I think because of Complexity science I actually did > imagine the future that has happened--starting about three years ago. > We've been organizing the ECOS gathering for almost two years (put on hold > because of the elections), and now we're organized and ready to go. We > need local volunteers to help with the final planning. Let me know if you > are interested. > > > > The Center's web site is: emergentdiplomacy.org. The ECOS website is: > ecosgathering.org. > > > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Nick Thompson <nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > Any, > > > > This article begins a badly needed conversation about what resistance must > look like. > > > > http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/11/10/trump-election- > autocracy-rules-for-survival/ > > > > Nick > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > > > > -- > > Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. > President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy > > Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA > > > Visiting Professor in Integrative Peacebuilding > > Saint Paul University > > Ottawa, Canada > > > > > > > merlelef...@gmail.com > mobile: (303) 859-5609 > skype: merle.llfkoff2 > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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