I think Kim's response bounced so I'm remailing it here: *From:* Kim Sorvig [mailto:[email protected]] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2017 2:21 PM *To:* 'Owen Densmore'; 'Complexity Coffee Group'; 'Kim Sorvig' *Subject:* RE: Cold War Jitters Resurface as U.S. Marines Arrive in Norway - The New York Times
My friends in Norway are of an age to remember the Cold War - but for them, Russia was literally next door, across a line on the ground. Their parents remembered both Hitler and Stalin, and especially the Nazi take-over of Norway. Oil wealth has only increased the odds that some Russian will decide they must annex Norway. And I suspect many are concerned that Pres. Voldemort will prefer being pals with Hijo de Putin over protecting NATO allies. So yes, as far as such speculations go, I would say this is one of the least fantastical ones out there at the moment. Kim Sorvig On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky <[email protected]> wrote: > The New York Times article seems to conflate geography like a party game, > Twister. It starts in Norway switches to Sweden, Finland, Lithuania > Kalingrad and keeps returning to fear and Russia. > > They should have provided a map to keep track of the game pieces. > > > > The Norwegians share an interest in smuggling Atlantic Salmon fillets to > Muscovites who smoke it. > > Russians smuggle bicycles to Norway pedal-powered by Syrian refugees. > > The Lithuanians smuggle cigarettes from Russia. The Russians smuggle wild > Mushrooms (Boletus edulis) and furs to Europe > > The Russians also used to smuggle High Grade Birch Plywood through Finland > and on to the entire world. > > The Russians used to smuggle mammoth Ivory to Alaska. Canada smuggled > Grass to the USA. > > The Polish Merchant Marine Ships used to smuggle Vodka (Spiritus) into > Canada. > > And all Baltic States smuggle Amber and Herrings. > > The Ukrainians smuggle well heeled Syrians from Russia to Slovakia flying > Russian Helicopters at tree top heights through the Carpathian Mts. > > They used to smuggle diamonds out of and Moldavian Guns into , Africa. > > Well if America needs to train soldiers in Arctic conditions what was > wrong with Alaska or North Dakota. > > Perhaps militarism is bad for all smugglers. Seems sanctions only served > smugglers. > > vib. > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Owen > Densmore > *Sent:* January-17-17 11:15 AM > *To:* Complexity Coffee Group; Kim Sorvig > *Subject:* [FRIAM] Cold War Jitters Resurface as U.S. Marines Arrive in > Norway - The New York Times > > > > Does this make any sense? Are Norwegians concerned about a Russian > invasion? Sounds nuts. > > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/16/world/europe/norway-us- > russia-marines.html > > > > Poland recently received US military folks too: > > https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/world/europe/as- > trump-reaches-toward-putin-us-troops-arrive-in-poland.html > > > > It seems to be NATO sponsored but why US troops? > > > > I'm a bit spooked. > > > > -- Owen > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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