I appreciate FriAM, even though I don't attend Friday Congregation very often, or even WedTech Congregation either! The *active* voices here are familiar and even though I may have a lot of different perspectives and opinions, I truly value what I hear here, and more than anything I look forward to one of our *many* lurkers chiming in.

I feel we *don't* discuss as many Complexity topics as I would like, but I like knowing that there are many with strong Complexity backgrounds engaged in the more sociopolitical discussions that seem to dominate.

Since I feel a bit like Glen in his statement "Since I don't belong anywhere, I obviously didn't belong there"... I'm enough used to being an outsider or an interloper that I generally can slip into alien situations and keep a low enough profile to not raise alarm or cause disruption.

This forum, being asynchronous and as Gary points out, "easy to delete" feels like a safe place FOR me to speak up above a hushed whisper... so I value it as well.

SFx was intended to be a more open and welcoming environment to share the wealth from... I think we did a moderately good job much of the time, but still missed the mark in at least developing a sustainable funding model.

- Steve


On 2/6/17 11:49 AM, Gary Schiltz wrote:
It goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway - FRIAM, both the list and the actual gathering at the "mothership" of Santa Fe - has always felt welcoming. It's the only list I've stayed with since its inception. I don't know if there are any SFI lurkers here, but there do seem to be a lot of people who "used to" have some association with it rather than those who are actively involved with it. I've no idea how much is due to a bit of snobbery vs. just simply the fact that the list is open to such a wide range of stuff that isn't interesting to folks interested purely in complexity. I find it easy enough just to delete messages when I get too overwhelmed, confident that they are archived so I can eventually look them over.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 1:34 PM, glen ☣ <geprope...@gmail.com <mailto:geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    FWIW, I felt fairly unwelcome soon after I left to work in our
    Agua Fria office (1997 maybe), perhaps since I was merely a
    research technician rather than any sort of academic.  Then it got
    even worse when they expanded down the hill by staffing a
    receptionist.  I always managed to sneak past without being
    grilled to badly ... but the concept was clear: do you belong
    here?  Since I don't belong anywhere, I obviously didn't belong
    there. 8^)


    On 02/05/2017 03:40 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
    > That makes sense but I just sat there quietly and listened.  No
    > self-aggrandizing questions. And then I left.

    --
    ☣ glen

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