I think Sugar is the new Tobacco on many fronts... it WILL fall
(somewhat), albeit slowly. And we will be able to get it without the
tax on the Reservation from a drive-through window?
Meanwhile I need to start a fresh batch of Kombucha and if the *only*
reliable source of sugar is (as recommended) pure, refined, white sugar,
then I'll pay the tax (or ask my RMJ seeking friends to pick some
bootleg white cane sugar up at a dispensary on the Colorado border).
Or maybe I need to understand better why I can't get good results from
less refined sugars or (OMG!) Honey. Or move on back to probiotics
based on things I can grow myself (saurkraut, kimchee, kefir, etc.)?
I don't like (Gub'Mint) regulation on principle but it might actually be
a reductio-ad-absurdum argument against any/all of our myriad "well laid
plans" brought to us by industry and commerce?
A favorite duality: "A conspiracy theory, or just a good business plan?"
Neo-Retro-Techno-Luddite,
- Steve
On 4/26/17 12:31 PM, Tom Johnson wrote:
I'm wondering this morning, if the nation seems to have accepted the
fact that the federal government can regulate vehicle mileage,
//require seat belt installation, testing of drugs for public
consumption, etc., how come it can't regulate sugar (and sodium?) in
food and drink? Could it be the sugar lobby is stronger than car
manufactures and Big Pharma?
TJ
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On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 12:02 PM, George Duncan <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Much as I agree with Tom's analysis and wish for a better process
for public policy decision making (hey that was my career at
Carnegie Mellon!), the issue here for our own voting is whether we
better off if this initiative passes. I vote yes. Indeed I have
already voted yes.
Also I cannot believe that a win for no will convince people
towards quality decision making...but rather that major corporate
money must win in the public arena.
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:42 AM glen ☣ <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We have a lot of data on whether sin taxes do or don't work.
And that data is colored/interpreted by everyone who sees it,
like all data.
And that brings me to my problem with Tom's argument. We can
focus on this part:
"Voting on the measure is also a vote for or against good
social science research, good public policy and
administration, and full transparency of the people’s data."
We've been over and over in several threads (that I'm sure
seemed hijacked by the more linear amongst us) about
_induction_ and the validity or soundness of the predicates it
leads to. Way back when I worked at a healthcare informatics
company, "evidence-based" was all the rage. Then a (small)
group of debunkers finally realized and advocated a move from
the concept of "evidence-based" to "science-based"
(https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/about-science-based-medicine/
<https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/about-science-based-medicine/>).
Add to that that many of my colleagues in the social sciences
tout evidence-based or science-based policy.
I have some very deep reservations against such, with the same
_flavor_ as my objection to the idea that government
should/can be run like a business. (Part of the rhetoric in
favor of Trump.) Government is not, inherently, a scientific
enterprise. It's an _engineering_ enterprise. And engineers
don't really care about reality as it is. They care about
reality as they intend it to be. Sure, good engineers take
the intitial conditions into account. But whether the initial
conditions have us on earth or mars doesn't matter that much.
What matters is that we want to _go_ to Proxima Centauri.
So, while I agree with the letter of the sentence above, I may
disagree with the implication.
FWIW, were I still in Santa Fe, I'd vote "yes".
On 04/26/2017 09:57 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
> I agree anecdotally residents of NM need help with education
and health.
> I am skeptical a tax on basically fake food,s and treats is
a helpful way
> to do that though.
> Postive programs and tools might help more than yet another
tax possibly
> can.
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