I think Wagner and Monod agree, actually. If I extrapolate what Jenny said
Wagner said, *mutation's* randomness is a statement of ignorance, presumably
about where innovation comes from in biological evolution. So, both Monod and
Wagner would say innovation comes from mutation.
On 08/09/2017 10:22 AM, Grant Holland wrote:
> According to Jacques Monod, chance mutations are the /only /form of
> innovation in living systems.
> On p. 112 of his book "Chance and Necessity" he says "...since they [chance
> mutations] constitute the /only/ possible source of modifications in the
> genetic text,...it necessarily follows that chance /alone/ is at the source
> of every innovation, of all creation in the biosphere. [Emphasis is his.]
> On 8/9/17 10:01 AM, Steven A Smith wrote:
>> Jenny -
>> What a powerful quote:
>> /Natural selection can //preserve//innovations, but it cannot
>> create them./
>> On 8/9/17 8:56 AM, Jenny Quillien wrote:
>>> An excellent foray into such a topic is /Arrival of the Fittest: how nature
>>> innovates/ by Andreas Wagner.
>>> From the Preface: the power of natural selection is beyond dispute, but
>>> this power has limits. Natural selection can /preserve/ innovations, but it
>>> cannot create them. And calling the change that creates them random is just
>>> another way of admitting our ignorance about it. Nature's any innovations-
>>> some uncannily perfect - call for natural principles that accelerate life's
>>> ability to innovate, its innovability.
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