Ha.  I can imagine putting candidates in booths.   The computer could parse the 
outputs and decide whether to repeat them to the audience.  Bzzt.   Rhetoric.  
Bzzt.   False statements.  Bzzt.  Ad hominem.    Bing.   Extended neutral 
elaboration [by the computer].   Keeping people talking, that’s all fine and 
good.   But how to shut them up with they go off the rails?

From: Friam [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick Thompson
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Glen ‘n all,



The article relates to a project I dreamed of ... helping people who disagree 
have a fair argument.  In my notion, a team of philosophy students, 
masquerading as a program, directed discussants toward fair argument with a 
view, perhaps, ultimately, in my dreams, teaching a program to step in for the 
students.



But keeping people talking is not the problem. Therapy programs have been good 
at it for years.  And three-year-olds.   The three year old has mastered the 
fact that conversation has both a procedural and a content dimension and the 
procedural dimension is sufficient to maintain a conversation with a 
sufficiently naïve adult.  As soon as the adult masters the same fact, the 
conversation ends immediately.



Why?



Because!



Why?



Because!



No child I have ever known is dumb enough to carry on such a conversation.



Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/



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The computers being trained to beat you in an argument

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41010848



> At the University of Dundee we have recently even been using 2,000-year-old 
> theories of rhetoric as a way of spotting the structures of real-life 
> arguments.





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