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Let me know when you have cc’s Does anybody know a genuine philosopher who might be rung in. Somebody who has actually read some Kant, for instance Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Reilly Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 1:37 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Object Oriented Ontology I bought a copy. For real. On Thursday, July 5, 2018, uǝlƃ ☣ <geprope...@gmail.com <mailto:geprope...@gmail.com> > wrote: I realize I'm that tool who always invites himself to these parties. But I'm intrigued enough to read along with you. At first I was skeptical because of this: https://philpapers.org/archive/BLAMSR.pdf > Harman's objectal reduction is an apodictic posit, invulnerable to empirical > testing. But this revived my interest: http://www.re-press.org/book-files/OA_Version_Speculative_Turn_9780980668346.pdf > In this spirit, then, when we reflect on the basic questions of philosophy we > note that in one way or another they all revolve around issues of difference. > What are the relevant differences? How are differences to be ordered or > hierarchized? How are dif- ferences related to one another? Let us therefore > resolve straight away to begin with the premise that there is no difference > that does not make a difference . Alternatively, let us be- gin with the > premise that to be is to make or produce differences. How, in short, could > difference be difference if it did not make a difference? I will call this > hypothesis the ‘Ontic Principle’. This principle should not be confused with > a normative judgment or a statement of value . It is not being claimed that > all differences are important to us. Rath- er, the claim that there is no > difference that does not make a difference is an ontological claim. The claim > is that ‘to be’ is to make or produce a difference. In part because there's something counter-intuitive, self-contradictory, or paradoxical about *not* starting with a method like criticality, yet starting with the assumption that all the basic questions revolve around issues of difference. What is critique *except* pointing out differences? So, that question will force me to learn more about OOO. On 07/04/2018 06:51 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > One of you [wretches], assigned me this book > <https://www.amazon.com/Object-Oriented-Ontology-New-Theory-Everything/dp/0241269156/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8 > > <https://www.amazon.com/Object-Oriented-Ontology-New-Theory-Everything/dp/0241269156/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1530754578&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=Graham+Harmon+Object+Oriented> > &qid=1530754578&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=Graham+Harmon+Object+Oriented> for a > little light summer reading before I left SF in March. It was a seductive > assignment. In the first place, the book is a little book. I LIKE little > books. Cheap and easy to carry. In the second place, as I read around in > it, I see echoes of Peirce in its monism and realism and fascination with > metaphors (aka “signs”?). Every chapter begins in an ingratiating > introduction that gives promise of progress in the rational construction of a > complex idea. > > There my praise ends. I have started all the chapters with the greatest of > good will and have gotten thoroughly lost in every one. > > I deeply suspect that whichever one of you [wretches] who assigned it to me > has never read it from cover to cover. > > SO: Will you now do that with me? And will others join? It would be best > if we could snare a few philosophers to join us because the author does seem > to be rather deeply into philosophy, both post modern and the other kind. > > It’s hard to believe that it has /nothing/ to do with object oriented > programing, but it may not. -- ☣ uǝlƃ ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove -- Sent from Gmail Mobile
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