Some applied math is real math by my definition as is some CS. Jon, Hywel and I were reading Schutz on general relativity. It was close to being "real math" but I was quite frustrated. He talks a good deal about the metric tensor but never really defines it. As far as I can see it's neither a metric nor a tensor according to the definitions I learned in math classes.
Frank ----------------------------------- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimbely My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 10:06 PM Nick Thompson <nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: > Yeah. I am not on my “*R*eal” kick today. “real” is good enough for > me. “real” in the sense of honorable, respectable, normative, proper, > honest, genuine, true to itself, etc. But on your definition, applied math > wouldn’t be “real”, right? CS wouldn’t be real math, either. To me, math > is “just” the development or use of formal systems to advance knowledge. > On that understanding, the use of any kind of formal system to model a > natural system is “real math.” I take it you would disagree. > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Frank > Wimberly > *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2018 6:23 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] This is how the Japanese multiply. (Math, not > biology) > > > > "Real" and "real math" are two different things. My definition of real > math is exposition of the form "definition, theorem, proof". When you > figure out what "real" means, let me know. > > > > Frank > > ----------------------------------- > Frank Wimberly > > My memoir: > https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly > > My scientific publications: > https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 > > Phone (505) 670-9918 > > > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 6:14 PM Nick Thompson <nickthomp...@earthlink.net > wrote: > > What!???? How could any mathematics not be REAL! FRANK! Defend yourself! > > > > NIck > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Prof > David West > *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2018 5:52 PM > *To:* friam@redfish.com > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] This is how the Japanese multiply. (Math, not > biology) > > > > I have a couple of books on "Vedic Math" - a large set of techniques for > how to calculate. This technique was among them. Showed the books to Frank > once, he was not impressed, "not real mathematics." > > > > davew > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, at 9:02 AM, Tom Johnson wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/637328420/posts/10156877698343421/ > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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