Mike's belief is consistent with what I have learned. Cochlear implants are miraculous for those who've never been able to hear but not for acquired deafness.
Have a good trip. Things in the reefer won't keep until you get back. Frank ----------------------------------- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Sat, May 25, 2019, 11:59 AM Nick Thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Frank, > > > > Mike knows a fair bit about all this stuff. I think what he says is that, > for a person who has never been able to hear, cochlear implants are a > revelation, but for someone who has had normal hearing all his life and now > has geriatric deficit, they aren’t worth it. > > > > Ask him. He has a lot of interesting things to say about hearing, some of > which I understood. > > > > We just had our “cleaning out the refrigerator” fight. It must be about > 24 hours before flight time. Time to confirm our reservations. > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Frank > Wimberly > *Sent:* Sunday, March 31, 2019 11:56 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] > 15555-10253-closing-a-gap-to-normal-hearing---white-paper.pdf > > > > Nick, > > > > Have you read about cochlear implant surgery? When I worked at Eye and > Ear Hospital of Pittsburgh, the lab I worked in was doing early research in > the area. These are pieces of hardware that transform sound into > electrical signals meaningful to the brain. > > > > Have you seen the videos of people who have been deaf since birth who get > such a device. They inevitably sob when they hear sound for the first time. > > > > Frank > > ----------------------------------- > Frank Wimberly > > My memoir: > https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly > > My scientific publications: > https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 > > Phone (505) 670-9918 > > > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 11:23 AM Nick Thompson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi, Everybody, > > > > In the home congregation, we have had many interesting conversations about > hearing in difficult environments, a conversation not only of intense > interest to people interested in computer analysis and representation of > sounds but also to a bunch of old guys shouting at each other in a crowded > college dining area surrounded by hard surfaces. Recently, we have been > trying to assemble our limited knowledge of the cochlea and to grasp the > fact that it is not a bank of discrete resonators doing a Fourier > Transform, but an innervated sliver of meat with liquid on both sides > coiled up in a tiny snail shell. We are eager for any signs that a > hearing aid company has started to reach beyond differential amplification > by means of FFT to actually focusing on the cues that really matter for > speech comprehension. > > > > Anyway, …. Anyway….. . I skimmed through the “white paper” below and > thought that, even though it is “captive” research, it had some interesting > features. Consequently, I thought I would pass it around to the list > before I lost track of it. My friend Jon Zingale accuses me of crowd > sourcing my reading and that is EXACTLY what I am doing. So, beware. > > > > > https://wdh.azureedge.net/-/media/oticon-us/main/download-center/white-papers/15555-10253-closing-a-gap-to-normal-hearing---white-paper.pdf?la=en&rev=0FC7&hash=B7D7D58F75093770CA7E148F72520C1D6BE28CB1 > > If anybody on the list knows of somebody doing advanced research on how > the cochlea passes sound on to the brain and how the brain analyses it, we > would love to hear from that person. > > > > And has for you young folks who think this will never happen to you: have > you noticed that your students and young associates and your daughter’s > boyfriends MUMBLE. The moment you find yourself saying, “Curse these > millennials, why don’t they speak up like normal people,” you should be > taking an interest in hearing technology. > > > > Just sayin’ > > > > N > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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