Gary, I sent it to your email. If anyone else wants it,I can do the same.
davew On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote: > Is your paper available? > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 7:11 AM Prof David West <[email protected]> wrote: >> Some comments that might be intrusive (in which case, I apologize and please >> ignore) or contributory as context to the "ownership" discussion. >> >> Two-years ago I presented a paper, "Patterns of Humanity," at a social >> change conference. Part of the paper dealt with "economics," — in. quotation >> marks because not all of economics, but practical efforts to set up >> alternative mechanisms for economic exchange. >> >> All systems of exchange can be derived from three human/cultural patterns >> of reciprocity: general, balanced, and negative. Simplified: General is akin >> to parent-child, value is given with little regard for "repayment" except in >> very general and delayed terms (kids take care of their parents in old age); >> Balanced is implied by the name, exchange occurs but is balanced among all >> members of the group - with remarkably precise awareness of any imbalances, >> (we all know which of us missed their turn to buy a round of drinks when we >> are out partying); Negative is both sides trying to maximize benefit at the >> expense of the other party. >> >> The key factor in viability of each type is social distance; general within >> family, balanced among small groups, and negative the only one that scales >> and includes strangers. >> >> Markets can be based on balanced reciprocity, but only at relative small >> scale, e.g. the village or a community like the Amish. >> >> Almost all markets with which we are familiar and within which we >> participate are grounded in negative reciprocity. Because these are focused >> on asymmetric outcomes; they are enhanced by asymmetry with regard the >> factors of the mechanism of exchange. Two of the most common are asymmetry >> with regards information and asymmetry with regards power. >> >> A concept of "ownership" is but a tool for establishing or enhancing an >> asymmetry of power. >> >> Like Markets, a "Commons" can be grounded in balanced or negative >> reciprocity. The possibility of a "balanced" Commons is constrained, by >> social distance. The only way to ensure the minimal social distance >> necessary for a balanced Commons is some kind of overriding Culture. So it >> works just fine in groups with a strong defining culture like the Amish, >> Mennonites, and pre-statehood Mormon communities. >> >> Commons derived from negative reciprocity are doomed to "failure." >> >> davew >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> > Nick writes: >> > >> > < Dogs seem to have (or enact) a concept of ownership. > >> > >> > Just have to bite on this one: My cattle dog seems to think of her >> > collar as jewelry. If I take it off she chases after me and tries to >> > get it back. >> > >> > < This scheme is known as altruistic enforcement because from a >> > Darwinian modeling point of view, it's hard to see why the dominant >> > individuals -- the soldiers, if you will -- don't pool their resources >> > and take down the Don. > >> > >> > Each would have to believe the new boss would be better than the old >> > boss, that it wouldn't be them, and that someone will be the boss. >> > They've invested in an organization that has a pecking order, and so it >> > would be dangerous to suddenly abandon it in favor of a looser cabal: >> > Everyone beneath each of them might do the same. >> > >> > Marcus >> > >> > >> > >> > ============================================================ >> > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >> > >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> >> http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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