Hi, Glen, 

Could you say more about the heuristic value of obtuse models?  

N

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
thompnicks...@gmail.com
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
 


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From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ?
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:14 AM
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Did Epstein ever respond to your criticism?

For what little it's worth, I disagree with your lesson. Obtuse models can be 
very useful. In fact, there's good reason to believe you will *never* actually 
understand how your model works, any more than you'll ever understand how that 
model's referent(s) work. I may even be able to use Pierce to argue that to 
you. 8^)

On 1/15/20 9:23 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote:
> The lesson is, if you
> don’t understand how your model works, you aren’t doing yourself any 
> favors by inventing it.  This led to my war with Epstein in the pages of JSSS 
> about the relation between explanation and prediction.

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