I don’t think of Bloomberg as being disguised, though.   He’s a Romney-like 
option.   At this point, I’m less concerned about enabling Thiel-type people 
than I am about enabling frothing morons.   At least Nixon cared enough about 
true and false to adapt his lies around facts, rather than to deny the 
possibility of facts.   One EvilDoer™ can be contained.   50 million of them is 
a bigger problem.

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I'll rank this way:

1. Bloomberg
2. Buttigieg
3. Klobuchar

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On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 9:36 AM uǝlƃ ☣ 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Heh, good game, ranking as enablers. From most enabling to least, I'd go with:

1) Buttigieg
2) Klobuchar
3) Warren
4) Sanders

(3) and (4) are really a toss-up. Sanders seems light on specifics and long on 
rants. And the devil is always in the detail. So Warren might be less enabling 
than Sanders by using corral fences with fewer unfilled holes. But she seems 
very Trumpian in her confidence that any of her plans would survive contact 
with the battlefield. Sanders may well end up with better plans if he turns out 
to be more adaptive, relaxing *into* the landscape rather than trying to 
out-think it. In the end, I think it'll be easier for deeper thinking 
Evildoers(TM) like Thiel to game Warren than Sanders, which is why I'd rank her 
as more enabling than Sanders. Buttigieg's Moderate Rhetoric looks to me like a 
red meat buffet, waiting to be gobbled up by the Evildoers ... like so many 
octogenarian Casino-goers. If he's the nominee, here's hoping that deep down 
he's a 3D foam of camouflaged steel traps waiting to lop off the fractal 
tendrils of our squidlike Leviathans.

On 2/13/20 8:13 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> I do wonder about Warren, Klobuchar, Sanders, and Buttigieg and their 
> rhetoric trying to pin blame on the divider-in-chief rather than on those 
> that voted for him.  It seems like crypto-partisanism to me.   They have to 
> be different things to different people, that’s politics.   I would love to 
> have an option, at least in ranked choice voting, who had the basic agenda to 
> finish the culture war by any means necessary and to severely punish 
> bad-faith actors as you describe.


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