https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/22/pro-trump-west-virginia-fight-convince-residents-pandemic-is-coming/

“burn through them like coal fire”..

From: Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of "[email protected]" 
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To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Indefinite Emergency Powers

Hi, Cody,

Good point.  If the thing I fear starts to happen quickly within the next ten 
months, what is the digital equivalent of “going out into the streets to 
protest.”

Nick

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
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https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/


From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of cody dooderson
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 11:32 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Indefinite Emergency Powers

There is part of me that really sees the potential for misuse of power. At 
Simtable we are working towards a spread model that involves tracking peoples 
locations using their phones. Which would be bootstrapped by getting location 
history from sources like Google, Facebook, Pokemon-go, etc...  The US and 
Israeli governments have already verified that they gather accurate phone 
location histories.  I would really hate for the GOP or even the DNC to get 
that data 'though. What I am trying to say is that we are on a slippery slope, 
where tracking everyones location is common.
There also seems to be doubt about how well this location data will work for 
fighting the covid-19 virus given the number of asymptomatic carriers. So far 
the best solution seems to be to test everyone, and then test them again.

References:
* 
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/governments-havent-shown-location-surveillance-would-help-contain-covid-19
* 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/scientists-say-mass-tests-in-italian-town-have-halted-covid-19

Cody Smith


On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 8:06 AM Frank Wimberly 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Congress is smarter than that, even with it's Trumpian sycophants.
---
Frank C. Wimberly
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 5:26 AM Jochen Fromm 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hungary's authoritarian leader Orban wants to get indefinite emergency powers 
to fight the Virus.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-21/hungary-s-orban-seeks-indefinite-emergency-powers-in-virus-bill

It reminds Germans of the "enabling act" 1933 which Hitler used to grab power. 
This law granted the leader the power to enact laws without the involvement of 
the p<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_(Weimar_Republic)>arliament, 
and made him a dictator.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933

Trump will try something similar - a bill or amendment to the constitution that 
grants him indefinite and unlimited powers. Officially to fight the disease and 
to protect Americans. In reality to protect himself. Once he has this emergency 
powers, he will never give them back.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/21/doj-coronavirus-emergency-powers-140023

-J.


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