Frank, 

I think that was the one that depicted tornadoes as arising from a horizontal 
barrel roll being bulged upward in the middle and ultimately split into two 
vortexes, one clockwise one, counter.  This idea does explain why sometimes a 
weak anti-cyclonic tornado often appear next to a main cyclonic one.   But the 
idea did seem kind of rinky-dink to me.  You are right, of course, I had no way 
to visit the math and evaluate it 

 

Nick 

 

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Clark University

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https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

 

From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:31 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

 

The fluid dynamics model used for that visualization is based on first 
principles.  Many years ago Nick was trying to figure out how tornadoes 
develop.  I told him I thought this was pretty well understood and I asked 
Droegemeier for a paper.  He sent one which I forwarded to Nick.  It was full 
of advanced math.  

 

Frank

 

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On Wed, May 13, 2020, 9:23 PM Marcus Daniels <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Nick writes:

 

“The result looks so much like iconic tornado vids that we wannabee tornado 
chasers idolize that one suspects that the video was back constructed from that 
film, rather than developing organically from the physics.”

Suppose the equations were extracted, or the behavior re-generated, from a deep 
neural net (or whatever automated machine learning thing), but nonetheless were 
predictive of other tornados.    One might reasonably ask, “Who cares?”

Marcus

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