Eric, I don't know either you or Dave West personally, and hope I don't fan the embers into flames. Some of Dave's posts certainly have a trolling tone. I agree that painting everyone in a group (in this case, scientists) with such a broad brush merits calling bullshit, but the posts haven't bothered me. As far as Friam involvement goes, I suspect that nobody has ever been banned for their posts, for which I'm happy. This is the most mature group of thinkers that I've ever had the pleasure to be a part. I admit that I only skim a lot of the philosophical ramblings, which are quite over my head, but I would miss anyone who has been part of the group.
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 5:18 PM David Eric Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Dave, > > > On May 30, 2020, at 12:32 AM, Prof David West <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Science suffers from a similar problem. Making assertions as if they > were unalloyed accurate and True Facts when they know that the models, the > assumptions, the data (lack of) generate more ambiguity and conclude little > more than probabilities. And they constantly change. But Science remains > unable to admit to error or ambiguity — generating a facade that is just as > false as the "We are always in the right" facade of police departments. > > That’s a lot of bullshit. > > It is a general claim about the actions of an encompassing set of people. > I have a large set of people against whom I can test that claim, and it is > about as opposite from factual accuracy as I know how to get in the world > of human behavior. > > You are, of course, free to believe whatever serves your own needs, and I > continue to support your right to do it unmolested. You are even free to > troll up to whatever limits the board moderators consider appropriate, and > I can’t imagine the above comes anywhere near infringing on a limit of > decency. > > However, if you are trolling in a public place, it is reasonable for > someone else to flag the trolling as bullshit. > > Eric > > > > -- --- .-. . .-.. --- -.-. -.- ... -..-. .- .-. . -..-. - .... . -..-. . > ... ... . -. - .. .- .-.. -..-. .-- --- .-. -.- . .-. ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >
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