FRIAM Diaspora in Europe here, makes sense to me. Here in Europe each week the 
restrictions are lifted a bit further, since the number of new cases is low 
enough. We still have to wear masks if we go shopping or use the public 
transport, which makes sense because the virus spreads through the respiratory 
system, and we have no vaccine yet. Our cleaning lady here in Berlin is from 
Chile where the situation looks really bad. She said her whole family in Chile 
has the virus, and her grandfather has died from it. If the situation on the 
southern hemisphere escalates it could swap back to the northern hemisphere 
again. There might be a second major wave if we are not careful. -J.
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<[email protected]> Subject: [FRIAM] Practical Covid Guidlines I wonder what 
The Congregation, including the Diaspora, thought about this. Nothing very 
dramatic, here, but that’s just the point.  Nothing on travel. From Dr. James 
Stein, Professor of Cardiovascular Research at the University of Wisconsin 
School of Medicine and Public Health… COVID-19 update as we start to leave our 
cocoons. The purpose of this post is to provide a perspective on the intense 
but expected anxiety so many people are experiencing as they prepare to leave 
the shelter of their homes. My opinions are not those of my employers and are 
not meant to invalidate anyone else’s – they simply are my perspective on 
managing risk. In March, we did not know much about COVID-19 other than the 
incredibly scary news reports from overrun hospitals in China, Italy, and other 
parts of Europe. The media was filled with scary pictures of chest CT scans, 
personal stories of people who decompensated quickly with shortness of breath, 
overwhelmed health care systems, and deaths. We heard confusing and widely 
varying estimates for risk of getting infected and of dying – some estimates 
were quite high.  Key point #1: The COVID-19 we are facing now is the same 
disease it was 2 months ago. The “shelter at home” orders were the right step 
from a public health standpoint to make sure we flattened the curve and didn’t 
overrun the health care system which would have led to excess preventable 
deaths. It also bought us time to learn about the disease’s dynamics, 
preventive measures, and best treatment strategies – and we did. For 
hospitalized patients, we have learned to avoid early intubation, to use prone 
ventilation, and that remdesivir probably reduces time to recovery. We have 
learned how to best use and preserve PPE. We also know that several therapies 
suggested early on probably don’t do much and may even cause harm (ie, 
azithromycin, chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine, lopinavir/ritonavir). But all of 
our social distancing did not change the disease. Take home: We flattened the 
curve and with it our economy and psyches, but the disease itself is still 
here. Key point #2: COVID-19 is more deadly than seasonal influenza (about 
5-10x so), but not nearly as deadly as Ebola, Rabies, or Marburg Hemorrhagic 
Fever where 25-90% of people who get infected die. COVID-19’s case fatality 
rate is about 0.8-1.5% overall, but much higher if you are 60-69 years old 
(3-4%), 70-79 years old (7-9%), and especially so if you are over 80 years old 
(CFR 13-17%). It is much lower if you are under 50 years old (<0.6%). The 
infection fatality rate is about half of these numbers. Take home: COVID-19 is 
dangerous, but the vast majority of people who get it, survive it. About 15% of 
people get very ill and could stay ill for a long time. We are going to be 
dealing with it for a long time. Key point #3: SARS-CoV-2 is very contagious, 
but not as contagious as Measles, Mumps, or even certain strains of pandemic 
Influenza. It is spread by respiratory droplets and aerosols, not food and 
incidental contact. Take home: social distancing, not touching our faces, and 
good hand hygiene are the key weapons to stop the spread. Masks could make a 
difference, too, especially in public places where people congregate. 
Incidental contact is not really an issue, nor is food. What does this all mean 
as we return to work and public life? COVID-19 is not going away anytime soon. 
It may not go away for a year or two and may not be eradicated for many years, 
so we have to learn to live with it and do what we can to mitigate (reduce) 
risk. That means being willing to accept *some* level of risk to live our lives 
as we desire. I can’t decide that level of risk for you – only you can make 
that decision. There are few certainties in pandemic risk management other than 
that fact that some people will die, some people in low risk groups will die, 
and some people in high risk groups will survive. It’s about probability.  Here 
is some guidance – my point of view, not judging yours:1. People over 60 years 
old are at higher risk of severe disease – people over 70 years old, even more 
so. They should be willing to tolerate less risk than people under 50 years old 
and should be extra careful. Some chronic diseases like heart disease and COPD 
increase risk, but it is not clear if other diseases like obesity, asthma, 
immune disorders, etc. increase risk appreciably. It looks like asthma and 
inflammatory bowel disease might not be as high risk as we thought, but we are 
not sure - their risks might be too small to pick up, or they might be 
associated with things that put them at higher risk. People over 60-70 years 
old probably should continue to be very vigilant about limiting exposures if 
they can. However, not seeing family – especially children and grandchildren – 
can take a serious emotional toll, so I encourage people to be creative and 
flexible. For example, in-person visits are not crazy – consider one, 
especially if you have been isolated and have no symptoms. They are especially 
safe in the early days after restrictions are lifted in places like Madison or 
parts of major cities where there is very little community transmission. 
Families can decide how much mingling they are comfortable with - if they want 
to hug and eat together, distance together with masks, or just stay apart and 
continue using video-conferencing and the telephone to stay in contact. If you 
choose to intermingle, remember to practice good hand hygiene, don’t share 
plates/forks/spoons/cups, don’t share towels, and don’t sleep together. 2. 
Social distancing, not touching your face, and washing/sanitizing your hands 
are the key prevention interventions. They are vastly more important than 
anything else you do. Wearing a fabric mask is a good idea in crowded public 
place like a grocery store or public transportation, but you absolutely must 
distance, practice good hand hygiene, and don’t touch your face. Wearing gloves 
is not helpful (the virus does not get in through the skin) and may increase 
your risk because you likely won’t washing or sanitize your hands when they are 
on, you will drop things, and touch your face. 3. Be a good citizen. If you 
think you might be sick, stay home. If you are going to cough or sneeze, turn 
away from people, block it, and sanitize your hands immediately after. 4. Use 
common sense. Dial down the anxiety. If you are out taking a walk and someone 
walks past you, that brief (near) contact is so low risk that it doesn’t make 
sense to get scared. Smile at them as they approach, turn your head away as 
they pass, move on. The smile will be more therapeutic than the passing is 
dangerous. Similarly, if someone bumps into you at the grocery store or reaches 
past you for a loaf of bread, don’t stress - it is a very low risk encounter, 
also - as long as they didn’t cough or sneeze in your face (one reason we wear 
cloth masks in public!). 5. Use common sense, part II. Dial down the 
obsessiveness. There really is no reason to go crazy sanitizing items that come 
into your house from outside, like groceries and packages. For it to be a risk, 
the delivery person would need to be infectious, cough or sneeze some droplets 
on your package, you touch the droplet, then touch your face, and then it 
invades your respiratory epithelium. There would need to be enough viral load 
and the virions would need to survive long enough for you to get infected. It 
could happen, but it’s pretty unlikely. If you want to have a staging station 
for 1-2 days before you put things away, sure, no problem. You also can simply 
wipe things off before they come in to your house - that is fine is fine too. 
For an isolated family, it makes no sense to obsessively wipe down every 
surface every day (or several times a day). Door knobs, toilet handles, 
commonly trafficked light switches could get a wipe off each day, but it takes 
a lot of time and emotional energy to do all those things and they have 
marginal benefits. We don’t need to create a sterile operating room-like living 
space. Compared to keeping your hands out of your mouth, good hand hygiene, and 
cleaning food before serving it, these behaviors might be more maladaptive than 
protective. 6. There are few absolutes, so please get comfortable accepting 
some calculated risks, otherwise you might be isolating yourself for a really, 
really long time. Figure out how you can be in public and interact with people 
without fear.       Steven W. Tabak, M.D., F.A.C.C.   |   Medical Director, 
Quality and Physician Outreach 
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  Nicholas ThompsonEmeritus Professor of Ethology and PsychologyClark 
[email protected]https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/   
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