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Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University [email protected] https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -----Original Message----- From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of u?l? ? Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 4:10 PM To: FriAM <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] alternative response I think you'd be better off if you tossed out the word "pre-determined" entirely. And maybe even "determined". Just don't use those concepts. The problem with those concepts is that they hide a time transient (as well as other scopes ... like a light cone). If you simply stop using that concept and *then* try to ask what you want to ask, I think you'll find a much better formulation of the question. On 6/16/20 2:58 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Is the question whether it was "pre-determined?" Or is the question whether > it was predetermined by Charles?? I have a neighbor who passes my study > window every afternoon at 4pm with his very floppy cocker spaniel. Is > that event predetermined by the dog (who begs to go out at 3.30), by > Scott (who welcomes the distraction), by the clock (which he checks to > keep the dog honest), or .... > > I know this because I used to set out for coffee every afternoon at > that time, and we would often meet on my doorstep and walk together a > few paces down the street. Because of COVID I don't do that any more. > Did COVID determine my change of behavior? Or did I make a FREE choice. > > I think the freedom of free will is just an ideological matter. Each > of us is supposed to be a master of our behavior and circumstances. > Indeed, in some jurisdictions, you can be popped in the loony-bin for > not being so. In which case, I think, the loony bin is where we all belong. > Or perhaps are? > > Anyway, Glen will accuse me of strawmanning again. Forgive me. I > have been tortured by dualists all my life, and now I am visiting my > revengte on all of you. -- ☣ uǝlƃ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
