I was asking me the same as Nick. We experience a global pandemic and I am 
living in a big city of 3.8 million inhabitants and I don't know anybody who 
really has it. I have asked our local newspaper salesman who meets a lot of 
people and he says he knows people who have it, but only have little or no 
symptoms. Our cleaning lady (which helps us cleaning our apartment) is from 
Chile, she said her whole family in Santiago has the virus because they all 
live together in very small rooms where the virus can easily spread. Both of 
her grandparents have died from it. In Berlin we have overall only 8000 
infected people, which is low compared to the overall population. Luckily.The 
biggest recent SARSCoV2 outbreak in Germany was at a meat factory: low 10°C 
temperatures increase droplet formation and water condensation, no distance 
between workers and poor working conditions all contributed to the 
outbreakhttps://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-53177628In America as a whole 
the situation looks really concerning. Chris Hayes argues on MSNBC that the 
government has failed and Donald Trump should resign as 
presidenthttps://youtu.be/oB4N27evVwY-J.
-------- Original message --------From: Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> 
Date: 6/27/20  18:41  (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity 
Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Nick Thompson >I don't 
even know anybody, personally, who has told me that they know anybody who has 
had the disease.  One of my high-school classmates  (a few weeks older than I) 
died of Covid-19 on April 30.On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 10:23 AM 
<[email protected]> wrote:David,[email protected] works just fine or 
[email protected] . I am really, REALLY  sorry but I don't think we 
should meet.  I just told my "pod" that I think that, with the rising cases in 
neighboring states, Santa Fe has started to get more dangerous again, and that 
we should we should be even more careful than we have been. (Rural Western 
Massachusetts got a lot of cases from "vacationing" New Yorkers in March.)   
With talk of a vaccine by the beginning of next year, it just seems stupid to 
take any risks whatsoever. It's not that long.  In the meantime, let's continue 
to interact electronically.  We could do our own zoom session.  You will point 
out how "notional" the hazard is, and I will have to admit that I actually have 
no first-hand experience with the disease, what-so-ever.  I don't even know 
anybody, personally, who has told me that they know anybody who has had the 
disease.  It is still, for me, a media event.  A cultural meme.  Pray God it 
remains that way.   So let's plan to meet "on the other side.". You take 
care!Nick Nicholas ThompsonEmeritus Professor of Ethology and PsychologyClark 
[email protected]https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/   
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Prof David WestSent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:10 AMTo: 
[email protected]: [FRIAM] Nick Thompson Nick, Your Earthlink email 
address (the only other one I have) bounced. I am in Santa Fe for a couple of 
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