Brief responses, Dave. When I first heard that song in 195? I wondered whether the eater or the people were purple. Maybe everyone did.
I like your fair-minded rhetoric. For example, "offers little" rather than "offers nothing". I prefer pure math but I don't disdain applied math. My dissertation was about finite element methods, a numerical analysis approach used in structural analysis, fluid mechanics, etc. Is logical positivism a subfield of analytic philosophy? I used to know. As an anthroplogist you might appreciate this book about ethnic identity in New Mexico: Nación Genízara: Ethnogenesis, Place, and Identity in New Mexico (Querencias Series) https://www.amazon.com/dp/0826361072/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_MpdnFbBG2K8TF Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 3:34 AM glen <[email protected]> wrote: > Excellent! This is the kind of skepticism I was incapable of formulating > by myself. Thanks! I hope to revisit the paper now. > > On August 12, 2020 12:55:02 PM PDT, Prof David West <[email protected]> > wrote: > >I promised to read and comment, so here goes. > > > >I really dislike (detest) this kind of analytic epistemology (analytic > >philosophy in general) as it contributes nothing to my understanding of > >how things are — how people think, why people have certain beliefs, how > >people judge something to be "true." > > > >Given Glen's commitment to Vico-ism, I am surprised he finds the > >article compelling in some way. > > > >Some questions: > > > >1- Does Carter know anything? I.e. is there an example of a bit of > >knowledge that came to be in his possession via the K-AB framework? He > >certainly does not provide one, even as an illustrative example. > > > >2- Assuming that the K=AB framework is useful. How many 'trials' are > >required to constitute "aptness?" For a belief to transform to > >knowledge must it be the case that all trials were apt, most of the > >trials, a super majority of the trials? > > > >3- Can the K=AB framework yield an integrated body of knowledge, or > >merely the occasional isolated knowledge factoid? > > > >4- Does a belief and or a bit of knowledge need to be expressed in > >words? If so, exactly how does the K=AB framework resolve the inherent > >ambiguity of language? > > > >4b- For example: I believe I encountered and am having a discussion > >with a One-eyed One Horned Flying Purple People Eater. I apply the > >framework aptly and I now I know I am talking with one. What I do not > >know, however apt my belief, is whether or not the creature is purple > >or the people it eats are purple. At minimum the framework yields > >incomplete and ambiguous knowledge. ("I like short shorts.") > > > >5- Glen 'knows' Trump is an evil idiot. Can Glen lead me along the > >apt-path that resulted in that knowledge? Could Carter? > > > >6- Re: collective knowledge. Is a collective a 'Thing'? Can that Thing > >embody/contain/possess knowledge? (or belief?) > > > >7. Clearly, groups appear to share collective knowledge and belief - at > >least at a statistical level. It is even possible to observe what > >appears to be collective knowledge that does not exist, per se, in any > >of the members of the group — the Delphi technique would be one > >example. (Emergent knowledge from a complex system?) > > > >As a cognitive anthropologist, I am constantly challenged by the > >problem of explaining how culture — apparently shared collective > >knowledge, behavior, and ability — comes into existence, maintains > >itself, evolves, and adapts to changing contexts, including encounters > >with other cultures. > > > >Formalisms, like those espoused by Carter, are so far removed from > >concrete reality they offer little in the way of guidance or > >assistance. And advocates of those formalisms seldom have any interest > >in applied work any more than advocates of "pure" mathematics tend to > >denigrate applied math. > > > -- > glen > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >
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