Neither you, nor 99% of the populace, will be willing to travel via fully automated airplane, for three reasons: 1) inability to write/produce 100% correct software; 2) pilots are in the cockpit (nice sexist name) for those 1 in a million events that are completely unpredictable (Scully landing in the Hudson); and 3) airlines will have blanket immunity from liability and therefore absent any degree of trust.
RE: COVID ending by June. The only reason it did not happen is a **liberal, anti-Trump, conspiracy** to suppress the, at last count 30, drugs/treatments/aerosols/etc. that would ameliorate the effects (for all except those with significant co-morbidity factors) and or dramatically decrease the risk of infection getting a toehold. * :) :)* davew On Thu, Aug 13, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > I actually knew someone who lived near the Embry-Riddle location in 2000/2001 > where several of the 9/11 pilots learned to fly well enough to do what they > did. She had friends (go figure) who worked at a strip-club who claimed > these "boys" were regulars there. It was pretty creepy 2nd order connection. > > My uncles were both pilots in WWII but the older was trained up on the > newfangled idea of a helicopter and proceeded to become a test pilot for > Sykorski. He was forced into retirement (chief test pilot) to a desk at 65. > Nobody wanted to ground him, but "rules is rules" and in fact his health > degraded acutely and abruptly and he died just a few years later. His family > insists it was from "heartbreak" from being grounded. > I have a "young" friend (now 40s) who was just finishing up his commercial > certification at Embry-Riddle Prescott on 9/11 and claims that the bottom not > only dropped out for commercial pilots for the next couple of years, but has > "never recovered" and he has been making a living as a bartender ever since. > Perhaps it is time for him to revisit. > My ex brother-in-law left his career in the Air Force to become "a bus > driver" and recently was retired (for age) from Delta. Even 30 years ago > things were incredibly automated. I see no reason that airliners won't be > entirely automated and teleoperated in the next 20 years. The risk-profile > of such things is evolving as self-driving cars (and more aptly? > Semi-tractors?) emerge. > The hyperloop game is going to change long distance rapid-transit eventually. > I don't believe anyone is planning for underground > "ballistic-trajectory-velocities" quite yet, but mag-lev-centered, evacuated > tube, zero-grade velocities could still be pretty impressive, and energy > consumption as well with magnetic (regenerative) braking. The earliest > days of railroading involved gravity-trains often with empty return cars > being towed by animal power. Yet others used water from the high-side > source as "ballast" and if the up/down routes were mechanically coupled, the > extra weight of water plus load would allow the empties to be returned "for > free". > Regarding Dave's friend's drug conviction, Denzel Washington's (one of a > series of flawed) character in the movie Flight is a drug-addled pilot who, > by implication in the story, actually achieves a heroic manouver *because* > he's still jacked on the cocaine he snorted to lift himself out of his > alcohol hangover. The setup is that a jackscrew controlling horizontal > stablizer breaks, forcing the nose of the plane down with no recourse... > Denzel's character quickly recognizes the futility of the situation and the > *opportunity* of rolling the dive into an inverted orientation such that the > forced "nose down" is now "nose up". > Popular Mechanics (of all places) had an article on the plausibility of the > Cocaine effects supporting the story (rather than the mechanics of inverted > flying). > I suspect I could get work myself using my 40 year-stale FortranIV experience > on "mission critical" systems already old at that time, but still in some > sort of service. I did a huge senior project on a FortranIV system for > simulating exo-Terran atmospheres (e.g. Mars) which might well be still be in > service? Fortunately my COBOL/RPG experience is so slim I'd never be > tempted to try that domain. > I'd like to believe that the myriad "stale skill" job opportunities (demands) > we see today are going to be yet-more-fully deprecated. I still have a > coal-fired forge and an anvil, both probably manufactured 100 years ago, that > I can shape and even temper iron and steel with (and aluminum if I'm > incredibly careful), but I do not and never will have the skills required to > do it well, and certainly not to replace what modern industrial processes can > achieve... barring a full apocalypse, it is merely a quaint "hobby" that > might afford me the opportunity to turn out some rustic items others would > mistake for "art", or more often, repair the various related tools I might > *use*in my forge... though in most cases a strap and some bolts or rivets > makes more sense than trying to re-weld a broken connecting rod, or lever. > Meanwhile, the discussion of how our "first programming language" defines us, > I believe that my earliest "programming" experience was more "analysis" of > the circuitry of pinball (and vending) machines in my friend's father's > workshop where he repaired them, and there were always an array of pinball > machines in various states of repair, with all the guts open for inspection > while operating. Very much an analog/digital hybrid system while the older > vending machines were essentially all "rod logic" (albeit simple). Later, > at my first employer (radio station) I learned the ins and outs of automated > infinite loop carousel "programming" which was a hybrid of relay and > mechanical (rod/gear/lever) logics. The "programming" was really > simplistic, involving inserting "shorting pins" in matrices to define > priorities and timing to get the "right" mix of commercials, PSAs, and a > diversity of music played during any given period (usually a 4 hour shift). > I can't say how much it influenced my later understanding of "computer > programming" which I was being introduced to simultaneously by our Driver's > Ed teacher who had somehow wrangled a PDP-x rack into a small room with a > teletype/paper-tape-punch. He didn't really have a clue, he was learning > BASIC along with us, following a simple set of "sample programs" listed in > what I think was the "owners manual" for the machine. > Ramble, > - Steve >> Does it include lessons on how to land the plane? >> —Barry >> On 12 Aug 2020, at 21:53, Frank Wimberly wrote: >>> I just got an email from a flight training program offering me a nine month >>> course to get a multi engine commercial license. They don't read the Friam >>> listsrv, I hope. I'm too old in any case. >>> >>> --- >>> Frank C. 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