Well, I think of a son of a friend of mine.   He seems bewildered as to why he 
should vote.   To him, the revolution will come and will change things in 
unrecognizable ways.   What fraction of the population has to ignore the law or 
use violence to be analogous to heating?   Where energy barriers are small 
compared to the kinetics of individuals?  Or it just never happens?

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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

Well, as Steve's question hints, there's a difference between the limit and the 
process that approaches the limit. Anarcho-syndicalism isn't tunneling. Unions, 
labor, community organizing, etc. are tunneling. And anarcho-syndicalism would 
be the state to which they're tunneling. [⛧] I'm a bit torn between social 
democracy and anarcho-syndicalism, though. Social democracy seems like a kind 
of 80/20 compromise ... lipstick on a pig. But visions of anarcho-syndicalism 
seem either way too vague, or come with too much special pleading. I tend to 
think anything that will eventually work will be ugly ... because reality is 
ugly. I enjoyed Sabine Hossenfelder's stubbornness here: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUWbe5KGaQY


[⛧] Revolution achieves nothing but the chance for one set of idealists to take 
over from another set of idealists, putting in place ridiculous abstractions 
that foment pain as the details are "worked out".

On 9/14/20 3:57 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> The sociological equivalent of tunneling through an energy barrier must be 
> anarcho-syndicalism (which sounds a lot like organized crime) and heating the 
> system up, revolution?


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