Thanks, Steve. The only one that even approaches being semi-auto is a double-action .22 revolver. The rest are old-fashioned lever or bolt action.
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 3:34 PM Steve Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Frank - > > I think you just missed the Santa Fe City/County firearms "buyback" which > has some charms (though I think they are constrained to always destroy the > weapons, which may contradict some particular antique value of one or the > other). > > I DO think firearms of the type you likely inherited (pre 1950 > manufacture?) are for the most part, not in the problematic class... > > According to Wikipedia, NM does require background checks on private > purchases... it would probably be easier for you to sell to a gun dealer, > possibly at a gun show. Such a person would at least understand the > collectible value of what you have, whether they pay a fair price for it or > not (guy's gotta make a profit?). > > My own values suggest that A) you make sure the firearms don't get abused > in this modern gun-crazy culture; B) make sure that any familial > sentimentality is not violated (sounds like that phase has already been > passed); C) make sure any particularly interesting vintage pieces make > their way to proper collector/museum hands. Roughly in that order. They > could also be rendered inoperable such that it would require a gunsmith to > return them to fireable condition. I'm guessing in all cases, removing or > filing down a firing pin is the method. > > While I often imply (maybe even boldly state?) That I do not own any > firearms, I AM the curator of two revolvers handed down to me, I just > deliberately don't maintain any ammunition, nor do I fetishize them (as > cool of mechanisms as they are when inspected closely). I DID incorporate > the (very slightly damaged) barrel of my Grandfather's service .45 > (replaced by my father during his tenure with it) into an art piece about > "action at a distance"... cartography and ballistic weapons.. > > *(it was selected in a juried art-show making me "an Artist" which in turn > means (I believe) now anything I craft that I *call* Art, is now, in fact > *Art* because I'm an artist (see first clause) and I *say so*! I am in > the same boat as you Frank, thinking I might best just remove these fancy > mechanisms from being useful for threatening/wounding/killing > people/animals/roadsigns.)* > > When closing down my parents house after my dad died and my mother opted > for an assisted living lifestyle, his two *rifles* went missing. I did > not know precisely where they were stored, but had an idea and sought them > out first to make sure they didn't "get loose". Both were fairly > innocuous... the first being my Grandfather's *other* WWI service weapon > (30.06 bolt-action single-shot used by my father as a deer rifle with open > sights) and the other being a 20 guage shotgun my father took in trade from > a colleague early in his career but never really used... He had let go of > a .22 plinking rifle somewhere in his retirement, so I didn't have to look > for that. The revolvers and a tiny (by most people's measure) cache of > ammunition (at least a decade stale by that time) were nearby but the > likely thief (someone who had done some work/help for my parents who had > access to the building and must have seen the weapons) didn't find. While > either of the weapons "lost" could be used to threaten, harm or kill > someone, they are nothing compared to the now-popular assault-style > semi-automatics and combat (12ga) shotguns. My father taught me the > basics of firearms handling and safety and sent me through an NRA sponsored > course around age 13 which I am thankful for. I handled his weapons enough > during that time to become moderately proficient and familiar but I suspect > I'm more accurate with my bow or a rock than I would be with a firearm. > > I don't know what to offer about your youngster who is being indoctrinated > into gun violence/combat by the popular culture... I myself can be seduced > by the action shows and some aspects of strong action-oriented > computer-video games... with "action" as a euphemism for *aggressive > violence* I suppose. I believe that we, as a culture, are rather unhealthy > in a number of dimensions, this being one of the more acutely obvious (to > some of us) ones. > > Good on you for caring enough to do right by this issue. > > - Steve > > I inherited or received as gifts six firearms (rifles and pistols) from > the previous generation of my family. They were ranchers, farmers, or > railroad workers at various times in their lives. I would be happy to sell > the whole lot. It may be the case that a sale of any of them would have to > be done in connection with an investigation of the buyer's possible > criminal background. Does anyone know? I can call the police if a buyer > appears. They are all now in a very secure safe since I live with a young > boy with an intense interest in guns and combat. He watches videos made by > high school and college students and plays video games almost all of which > have combat modes. I wishi it were possible to assess the association of > such games and videos with violent criminal activity later in life. If > that were possible would it affect their availability? > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 1:48 PM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I think it probably depends on the time horizon. While the social wound >> is healing it probably helps the authoritarians, in the long run there is >> memory. Counting on empathy at all seems pretty iffy to me. It depends >> where one sits in the socio-economic scheme of things and how you see the >> future. I would just replace the your recommendation of >> group-self-policing with self-modulating. Invoke chaos when chaos will be >> untenable to stop by force -- when it is in fact terrifying to those in >> power to have it continue. >> >> It definitely makes me think every time I drive by the local hardware >> store and still see it boarded up with plywood -- the plywood now covered >> with graffiti. It makes me speculate about the guilty conscience of the >> owners, actually. The movie theater across the street put up a Black >> Lives Matter sign on the marquee, and nothing happened to them. >> >> This is reptile brain stuff, but I think it has an impact. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of u?l? ??? >> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 12:36 PM >> To: FriAM <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Don't take your guns (or ammo) to town... >> >> I can't find it now. But some outlet argued that state-sponsored violence >> positively reinforced empathy for the victim and negatively reinforced >> empathy for the police and state. And riot-violence positively reinforced >> empathy for the police and state and negatively reinforced opinions of the >> rioters. I don't believe it (yet) because it makes too much *sense* to be >> an actual result. Sounds like rationalization or confirmation bias. >> >> But if it's true, then riots do work ... to bolster a fascist state. >> Rioters who call themselves "anarchists" are either tools of the fascists >> or just too stupid to understand what they're doing. Actual anarchists >> would not riot. >> >> On 9/16/20 12:17 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> > In my neighborhood somewhat hijacked a LED street sign to say "Riot's >> work". If it is just the 2nd amendment types barging into the capitols >> with their guns, then the danger will be perceived as one-sided. >> >> -- >> ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ >> >> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe >> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> >> http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> > > > -- > Frank Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > 505 670-9918 > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe <http://bit.ly/virtualfriamun/subscribe> > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >
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