I am an author of 6+ published papers in complexity but the topic "algorithms for inference of gene regulatory networks using causal reasoning" would not keep people's interest I fear. Nor would "validation of ABMs using causal inference". Any presentation of that work would require a projector and/or a whiteboard. I like unstructured, informal conversations along the lines of the discussions on the List.
p.s. the papers mentioned are available for reading. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Sep 24, 2020, 3:24 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Steve, > > > > Well, I hate people who hate. Hating something, particularly any category > as broad as “religious people”, is like putting your own eyes out and > blaming the darkness. I hate myself when I hate. But I think the hatred > described here is mostly rhetorical. There is a way of talking on FRIAM > that involves using hyperbole with a wink, and, given that 80 percent of > Americans are more or less religious, I think this is an example. It’s > almost equivalent to saying, “I hate people,” which I can complete > understand, but wouldn’t admit to out loud. Actually, I don’t think there > are a lot of haters in this group. > > ‘ > > I think we are at our best as a group when we talk about things we (1) > care about, (2) on which we have some [expert?} experience to bring to > bear, and on which our minds are at least slightly ajar. I do wish > complexity would rear its ugly head more often in our discussions, but I > would guess we have drifted away from it both in caring and in knowledge, > so, if we tried to get a discussion going, it would be like burping up last > night’s *Famiglia Cribari. **µ* > > > > Nick > > *µ For those of you who are under 80, Famiglia Cribari was the graduate > student wine of choice in the 60’s. You bought it in jugs. If you brought > a whole jug to a pot luck, you were forgiven for not bringing any food. * > *------------------------------* > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > [email protected] > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Stephen Guerin > *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2020 12:15 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > [email protected]> > *Cc:* Owen Densmore <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] why some people hate cops > > > > Marcus writes: > > I guess the only thing I hate more than cops are religious people. > > > > As a list admin, this might be flaggable. I'm not sure if expressing > hatred of a protected class of people in of itself is hate speech- it seems > to be at least up to the line. Ie, replace with "The two groups I hate more > than cops are gays and black people" - would I have a responsibility to > intercede? > > As I consider the impotence of this group to take political action and > incite political violence I consider the statement low to zero risk. I will > take no action as a list admin. Intellectually, I would like to know where > the line of hate speech is. > > > > Now, as a fellow list member and religious person, I find your hate an > opportunity for discussion and exploration. I would estimate your emotion > is held by at least a rough majority of list members. > > The Science / Religion schism, I think it is one of the great divides in > our political situation and may signify a phase transition in our culture > as we stretch for new metaphors in scientific and spiritual understanding. > The 2000-year old metaphors are certainly getting long in the tooth. > Similarly, many on this list feel the 60-year-old scientific metaphors > around fundamental questions of intelligence and living systems are in the > process of updating and exploration. I suspect there will be opportunities > for synthesis. > > Perhaps Merle would like to facilitate a virtualFriam on the topic. > > > > -Stephen > > _______________________________________________________________________ > [email protected] <[email protected]> > > CEO, Simtable http://www.simtable.com > > 1600 Lena St #D1, Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > office: (505)995-0206 mobile: (505)577-5828 > > twitter: @simtable > > zoom.com/j/5055775828 > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >
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