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Agreed, but is that a feature of our winner-takes-all voting system? Do we *like* having our lives/livelihood reduced to such? Do we have a choice in letting this projection of a "properly complex life/value-system" onto a pair of polarized political parties? > >> On Oct 9, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Steve Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> I agree that the illusion of there being only the single axis of >> Left/Right is a travesty. >> >> I also intuit that my own preferences for ranked-choice-voting to >> *allow in* more dimensions may be naive in some way I don't fully >> apprehend. >> >> I'd love for you (and others) here to explore the paradoxes and >> inconsistencies implied in all of this. >> >> On 10/9/20 9:18 PM, Eric Charles wrote: >>> --- reconfigure (expand) it from 9 to 15 but >>> *balance* the Left/Right ideology (I think he proposed 5/5) and >>> then --------- >>> >>> Note that one thing both parties agree on is that we should conceive >>> politics as utterly and completely a choice between the two of them. >>> God forbid that we conceive of judges using any other dimensions. In >>> fact, let's enshrine it in law that we must forever focus on exactly >>> whether we have a "balance" of "left" and "right". Ugh! >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 4:48 PM Steve Smith <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Ha! I refer to the last bit as "ok fine, TWIST my drinking >>> arm!" when >>> someone offers to buy me one... the only one to twists my >>> drinking arm >>> this last six months has been Mary... and Maybe Stephen and his >>> circle >>> on "ZoomGrappaNight". >>> >>> I don't like the language around "packing the court". I don't >>> think >>> "reconfiguring the court" is the same as "packing the court". >>> Clearly, >>> the (not so) loyal opposition to the Dems *would* pack the >>> court... add >>> 6 more justices and make sure they are ALL conservative >>> leaners. Pete >>> Buttegeig was the first to speak of this in my earshot, and HIS >>> version >>> sounded pretty reasonable... reconfigure (expand) it from 9 to >>> 15 but >>> *balance* the Left/Right ideology (I think he proposed 5/5) and then >>> leave it to the Justices themselves to fill the remaining 5 (through >>> some arcane process?). What the Republicans have been >>> building up to >>> for decades is "packing the courts". >>> >>> Checks and balances are tricky, as is depending on social norms and >>> standards, but I think it might be "as good as it gets", at >>> least for >>> the time being. >>> >>> - Steve >>> >>> >>> On 10/8/20 1:36 PM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: >>> > Ha! That was the essence of one of the 538 panel member's >>> phrasing suggestion for Kamala Harris in response to Pence's >>> question about packing SCOTUS. The elaborated version was: >>> "Because confirming Barrett, NOW, is such a horribly wrong thing >>> to do, we have no choice BUT to pack the court." ... I.e. now >>> look what you made me do. That was my dad's favorite phrase to >>> justify whatever abuse he chose to mete out that day. He once >>> ran over my bicycle with his truck. I *made* him run over my >>> bike because I left it laying in the driveway. It's a running >>> joke with my fellow drinkers who *regularly* FORCE me to drink >>> more than I should. There is no free will. I live to serve. >>> > >>> > On 10/8/20 11:28 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >>> >> Look what you made me do, >>> >>> >>> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> <http://bit.ly/virtualfriam> >>> un/subscribe >>> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> <http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com> >>> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >>> FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> >>> http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ <http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/> >>> >>> >>> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
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