So, along with the comments made about Roberts' memos and recognition that the 
court is just as political as the other 3 branches (and the implicit 4th), and 
hearkening back to the apparent capitalist *requirement* of a permanent, but 
materially open, under class, what concrete form could a Platonic 
Constitutional Representative Democracy take? If not "text", then what? What 
expression(s) do we have to enshrine in order to enshrine the abstract concepts 
being expressed?

Maybe *multiple* expressions would approximate it better, a text, a 
diagram/animation, and a mechanistic computation. (My principle is 3 are 
required, 2 is inadequate, 1 is ridicule-worthy.) So if the concept(s) to be 
enshrined are separation of powers into, say, 4 branches of government, then 
from that conceptual constitution, we write a text, draw a diagram, and build a 
simulation. Then those 3 "documents" are held up as "the Constitution" ... "the 
law of the land".

To my mind, that question *precedes* the causal inferencing (well-) shone by 
Whitehouse. The extraction of an ephemeris from noise requires some sort of 
prior model. We have to decide kindasorta what we're looking for before we 
start willy-nilly inferring. (While relatively agnostic inference algorithms 
like empirical mode decomposition are always attractive, TANSTAAFL.)

On 10/13/20 12:09 PM, David Eric Smith wrote:
> I don’t really know which thread to attach to, or where best to attach to it.
> 
> But in a room I was in, Sheldon Whitehouse’s statement in the confirmation 
> hearing was playing:
> https://www.facebook.com/derek.friday/videos/10102085065399760/
> This seems to me where the conversation should be, (or at least this part of 
> it).  I would like the evening news better if they would include content of 
> this kind. For cynics about politicians who want to cop-out and say “Ah, 
> they’re all rats”, I would like to put this forward as an argument that there 
> are plenty there to work with.
> 
> Narrow questions that can be answered legalistically, but that refuse to 
> address the big mechanisms of causation, seem to me to be pure distractions, 
> and it irritates me that they get more than proportional time.  Any meaning 
> the narrow moves get is coming from these big causal contexts, and it is 
> worth seeing a bit of the machinery by which they are organized.


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