Nick, An experience:
There was a pretty girl that I had crush on in highschool. Margie was hyper conscientious and had a perfect GPA. We went to numerous formal dances and had friends in common but our "relationship" was entirely superficial in my opinion. I eventually realized that she was very similar to my sisters whom I found kind of annoying. So, she was familiar but not much else. We stayed in touch over the years. She became an RN and had two manly sons--a police officer and an airline pilot. A few months ago I became aware that she was a Trump supporter. About a month ago I referred to him as incompetent and dishonest in a message to her. She unfriended me on Facebook and didn't otherwise respond. When my granddaughter was born on Monday I sent her a photo of the baby and said that she probably wasn't aware of the news because of the unfriending. She said, "You know why I did that don't you?" I said, "Because I criticized Trump?" She said that it was because I put a thumbs up on the announcement of his Covid-19 diagnosis. Now, I did not do that and I told her that. For me, this was the most real interaction we had in the 60+ years we've known each other. If we have no further contact it's fine with me. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 11:32 AM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> wrote: > Nick writes: > > < That desire not to lose contact with my “enemy” is constitutional with > me. Your imperative is like telling me not to breath. Somebody said, ‘A > value is a principle that one is helpless to disobey.’ Anything else is > just moral positioning. > > > What is an example of nuance in a Trumper's "argument" where you have been > enriched intellectually, or where you gained insight into their tactics or > strategy that you otherwise would have not gained? > > When would it finally cross the line for you? Does it ever cross the > line? > > Marcus > ------------------------------ > *From:* Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of > [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 11:14 AM > *To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump > > > Marcus, > > > > That desire not to lose contact with my “enemy” is constitutional with > me. You imperative is like telling me not to breath. Somebody said, ‘A > value is a principle that one is helpless to disobey.’ Anything else is > just moral positioning. > > > > Now mind you, I am all in for Ossoff. (All On for Oss-OFF?) And Warnock. > I find the name Warnock so intriguing I would probably favor him even if he > were a republican. > > > > Where are you sending YOUR money? > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > [email protected] > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Marcus Daniels > *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 11:33 AM > *To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump > > > > < According to my benighted Deweyan, Liberal, Bleeding-Heart ethos, this > fact implies a duty to reach out to these folks and try to find some > common ground on which to stand and from which to work. But I have no idea > where to start. > > > > > Just don't. Waste of time. Let's keep our eyes on the ball. Now is the > time focus on taking the Ossoff seat. I do hope Ms. Harris is (or can > become) the monster Trump claims, and takes on the role of Cheney for the > Dems. > > > > Marcus > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of > [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 10:13 AM > *To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump > > > > Jochen, > > > > After my original bout of hysteria, I have been pretty sure that Biden was > going to win this narrowly. But this outcome hasn’t improved my mood. > Hysteria still lurks, because 70 million Americans, more than any that have > voted for any other presidential candidate except Biden, have endorsed the > Presidency of Donald Trump. That this fact should be beyond my > comprehension shows me – as Dave West has been pointing out – the weakness > of my model of the people I am living among. Imagine how you would feel > if 49 percent of the German electorate have voted for a neo-Nazi or 49 > percent of the French had voted for Le Pen. > > > > According to my benighted Deweyan, Liberal, Bleeding-Heart > ethos, this fact implies a duty to reach out to these folks and try to > find some common ground on which to stand and from which to work. But I > have no idea where to start. > > > > But thanks for your good wishes. Lord knows we will need them. > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > [email protected] > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jochen Fromm > *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 4:19 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump > > > > America has been able to accomplish what Europe has not been able to do > before WW II: stop fascism (in form of an authoritarian dictatorship) > before it was able to take root in the system. Congratulations! It feels > good that the old America is back. People are celebrating in the streets in > NY and DC while team Trump is holding one of the last press conferences at > the Four Seasons Total Landscaping (!) center in Philadelphia. It is hard > to say what is bigger: the malice or the incompetence of team Trump. It is > such a relief that we no longer have to hear each day about Trump. > > > https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/four-seasons-total-landscaping-trump-team-news-conference.html > > > > -J. > > > > > > > > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >
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