Macroviolence like Nagasaki may still be intended to "communicate", but it also 
aims to vanquish.  Earlier you said that "But it's Evil to insist you've 
learned all you need to know about some or another subject."  So it would be 
Evil to vanquish such an adversary?   There's always more to know about them, 
of course.  

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Of course. If we agree that all thought is (miniature) action, then 
microviolence like using a racial slur is only distinct from macroviolence like 
sucker punching Nazis as a difference of degree. If Richard Spencer did NOT 
take getting punched in the face as a rejection of his arguments, then he 
should seriously rethink his conception of what it means to make an argument.

That implies, given that some violence is illegal and other violence is legal, 
the delivery of counter-arguments has to be deliberate ... think before you 
formulate your argument-violence. What type of person will be receiving your 
argument-violence, and will they be receptive to it? Similarly, when you 
receive a bit of argument-violence, think about the sender and what message it 
contains. Did they deliver that argument-violence deliberately?

Only *iteration* can reveal these things. So, you can't abort the dialogue 
simply because you don't like the form it takes ... or, well, you can abort it, 
I guess, if you want to remain ignorant.

On 11/25/20 12:02 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Can we extend the "dialogue" to include violence? 

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