Yeah, defnly no forgiveness needed on that one, Steve, It’s the way I would say it.
Eric > On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Stephen Guerin <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Eric, please forgive me if I over-simplified p15: > > "Universal metabolism is an ecosystem property > > If the simplicity and universality of core metabolism and bioenergetics are > expressed in ecosystems whereas they are not generally expressed at the level > of organisms, metabolism is in some respects more a property of ecosystems as > units of organization than a property of organisms." > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 9:40 AM Stephen Guerin <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Yeah, the second Jim Rutt Show we asked people to listen to was the extremist > Eric Smith who claims life is an ecological property of the system and less a > property of an individual :-) > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 8:59 AM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > [sigh] I'll never get that time back. I regret that you've now convinced me > to listen to 2 Jim Rutt episodes. I've completely forgotten what the first > one was about. And it's likely I'll forget this one, too. Rutt seems like a > gentler Joe Rogan, who facilitates the insane ranting of his guests with so > little curation as to make it useless *unless* you're *excited* by the people > talking. ("Excited" in a good or bad way.) But I suppose I should give Rutt > more of my ear time before I come to any conclusions. So I've added it to my > feed. > > Yarvin [ε] is one of the founders of the alt-right, a right wing > "intellectual" troll whose sheer (admitted) intellect encourages him (and his > hapless victims) toward the same ambiguous over-statement and over-confidence > Trump has used so well. His con-man facade is obvious if you follow his > speech/text patterns. To find the details he glosses, all you need to do is > focus on where he laughs at his own jokes and veers hyperbolic in his claims. > His uses of "fvck" and "sh¡t" are good places to start. > > Good examples of his trolling can be found at Scott Aaronson's site: > https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3167#comment-1732226 > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.scottaaronson.com%2fblog%2f%3fp%3d3167%23comment-1732226&c=E,1,Q7_WztNA3BSkVYhBCNrT3Vy8Y16ArmRwPPVUq0B63phXM27w7hlzBYcDc18Lw-7TI2hyk_VboO6HD3yrOI0Wna8NciLx7gFS59KFTVd4iwOVAtXwcpycMx4bmJI,&typo=1> > > Credibility is about being careful in one's language and actions. Don't be > fooled by those who throw tons of spaghetti at the wall. Of course if you > throw more spaghetti, then more of your spaghetti will stick. Yarvin is, > truly, incredible. Of course, just because you can't trust a con-man does > *not* mean con-men aren't useful or that they shouldn't exist. It takes a > village. And every village needs its Jesters and gimpy shamen. > > > [ε] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment> > https://qz.com/1007144/the-neo-fascist-philosophy-that-underpins-both-the-alt-right-and-silicon-valley-technophiles/ > > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fqz.com%2f1007144%2fthe-neo-fascist-philosophy-that-underpins-both-the-alt-right-and-silicon-valley-technophiles%2f&c=E,1,Im_bI1RapMLssInRYVNXq8u7CrxNfcYdPZoQqE8hZVfzlDiVQv5m9IPLX1uzRoBXGI2TCDwy-csiZl6-bHZkPMO-f6r73Mi9mNqRCjUPEGWZR6rJYSmg408J4dc,&typo=1> > > > > On 1/17/21 7:26 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > I am hoping to entrap one or more of you into listening to > > https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/ > > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.jimruttshow.com%2fcurrents-curtis-yarvin%2f&c=E,1,vmY_Re8C1I0E5i0caNUmr4GheDg2uaDx5UA5lAFwsPlk96aCBMmZjOiuaR7LUX6i4-Pw-t3uDyDFvI9ocKTQLDZ_hK8prfhJXS9fO96o_XpipMl4OMTkjJE,&typo=1> > > <https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/ > > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.jimruttshow.com%2fcurrents-curtis-yarvin%2f&c=E,1,8sW4wVsK6_ttCEVFqVXH77jZeBv2gObEhIMoFxnszU_o6F8iJsN7Dp7MFCvYPi9an-ArIXOnSdBPsRLe_WK_i-0nAO7SJgKihhJaAHTKZh699lYDEpSV2ndOn3Za&typo=1>> > > and helping me to resolve my ambivalence about it. Yarvin seems to be > > some sort of a libertarian, an attribution I make from his smug > > dismissiveness and his inability to speak without making reference to bowel > > and sexual function in every sentence. Also, his joy in goading us BHL’s > > by such assertions as, “FDR was a much worse liar than Donald Trump.” On > > the other hand, his diagnosis of the deep state and conflicts of interest > > that bind “experts’ are deeply troubling to me. He seems to make an > > argument for authoritarian government structures, praising the organization > > of the Manhattan project with that of NSF. Thus his take on FDR is that > > he was not a successful democratic leader but a skillful autocrat. He > > argues plausibly that the covid pandemic was the result of a US funded > > program Chinese research > > program on SARS-related bat viruses when the infected ferrets there were > > working on were sold to the wet-market by the person who was supposed to > > euthanize them. The idea here is that the SARS program was continued, not > > because it was still needed, but because of the institutional and financial > > momentum provided by the US government for the Chinese Research. 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