I don't let my spam filter automatically file my spam...  I visually
scan the subjects and senders and depend on my peripheral vision to
notice spam markers... if something is suspected spam but *isn't* I
notice pretty close to real-time which means that there isn't a lot of
negative reinforcement for false-positives.   I also try to be
thoughtful about what I mark as spam... I don't for example, call things
I simply am not interested in as spam.  Before I do a "delete spam" or
"move marked to spam folder" I scan again, just on principle... I *very*
rarely catch anything in that scan but you know "belt and suspenders"....

I try to limit who I "subscribe" to and then whack-a-mole the allies
that seem to spill over.  ActBlue and/or ButtigeigForPrez and/or
BernieIsSoCoolItHurts seem to have gleefully given my e-mail address to
another half-dozen or so other campaigns (DitchMitch, MakeGeorgiaBlue,
OMGtheRedStatesAreComing, etc.) who then flooded me.   For a while they
were a hydra it seemed... and I WAS tempted to overtrain my spam filter
and send it direct to a folder or trash but got through it without doing
that.  

Finally, after November I started unsubscribing from the campaigns I
knew I'd opted into (even if by sly accident) and included an admonition
that if THEY were the source of all the side-spam, they should rethink,
because it ended up *inhibiting* my support for their cause(s)... though
I am not sure that was very significant.



On 1/28/21 9:48 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote:

> It's a bit funny. I can't remember who they are. But there are some rare 
> posters whose posts go into GMail spam. It's as if GMail has a similar 
> feature to Spamassassin's *ham* learner. Like the lurker who posts rarely is 
> drowned out as spam because I've allowed the frequent posters to out-ham 
> them. If that's the case, maybe Roger's filter is inverted and has noticed he 
> simply doesn't like *repetitive* stuff. So where mine filters out the rare 
> posters, his filters out the blowhards.
>
> Or, maybe it's because Google has robots who read our emails and the posts 
> they let through are actually a kind of marketing *upsell* technique. "Oh, I 
> see you've failed to mark blatherings from Glen as spam. That means I'll 
> present you with ads for blatherings from The Epoch Times."
>
> I'm thinking about switching to Mailo or Zoho for trash email addresses like 
> my GMail ones. I don't think they read them but who knows?
>
> On 1/27/21 6:14 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>> Roger is just saying we are boring and that he ignores our posts.  gmail 
>> follows his preferences.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of u?l? ???
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 5:20 PM
>> To: FriAM <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Message to the non-posting 95%
>>
>> The question I have is whether the similarity is mostly in the payload or 
>> mostly in the metadata. I welcome clues from any spam-gurus. I also think it 
>> depends on the extent to which your filter is crowdsourced, as well. It 
>> strikes me that GMail (and such) users have an economy of scale in 
>> recognizing spam that offline bayes filterers don't have.
>>
>> It would be a fun, but maybe cruel prank to play on someone to get all your 
>> friends to mark all emails from some poor shlub as spam so that Google users 
>> worldwide began sending their emails to spam.
>>
>> On 1/27/21 5:07 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
>>> This whole thread went into my gmail spam folder.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Why is this message in spam?
>>>
>>> It is similar to messages that were identified as spam in the past.
> ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ
>
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