At the same time I saw this conversation between Glen and Marcus this arrived in my inbox. It's from The New Yorker's humor pages:
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/ways-non-woke-people-from-history-tried-to-be-woke?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Humor_030421&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bea160d24c17c6adf1d90ff&cndid=26657004&hasha=03a68c161f5d16347943cf2195691293&hashb=806a12bf27a999679e133d98a8068fab3b194723&hashc=5a04768fafab49af2104ea98375511d11b19157e125fbac5ef8a7b339af771dd&esrc=auto_captionentrants&utm_term=TNY_Humor --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Mar 4, 2021, 4:12 PM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> wrote: > I do get a little tired of all of the back-and-forth media coverage and > political posturing about democracy and fair play. Of course it was the > full court press to slow down Trump's administration when it started. In > this sense the current climate of polarization is more honest. Of course > we hate you guys, we always have.. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of u?l? ??? > Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 2:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Score one for Wokeism! > > I'm working off this guy's accusation that Wokeism is a "pseudo-religion": > > https://hwfo.substack.com/p/science-says-sam-harris-is-alt-right > > I don't... but if you did take his nonsense seriously, then Wokeism is a > broader ethical system than Antifa. Antifa seems to me to be more honestly > anarchist, playing whack-a-mole with asymmetric power. Perhaps it depends > on how one defines "democracy & fair play". Wokeism seems to be more about > cultural engineering. I wouldn't expect the Woke to have a problem with the > asymmetry between, say, Beyonce's voice and Richard Spencer's pathetic > post-punch rants. Antifa, however, may one day turn on to the fascist > imagery implicit in every group dance choreography (or the existence of > "clap tracks" and autotuners in every modern pop song) and try to hammer > down that peak a bit. One can dream. > > For the most part, because white cis men still have the overwhelming > majority of all power in the US, Antifa and Wokeists should align nicely > for the indefinite future. > > Of course, there's also an inter-personal difference. Wokeists, us being > soft-handed snowflakes, aren't as likely as Antifa to bring body armor to > the protests ... but you never know for sure. > > On 3/4/21 2:24 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > What's the difference between an Antifa and a Wokeist? I think it has > something to do with a down-weighting on the importance of democratic > representation & fair play? > > -- > ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >
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