Once upon a time, Regan era if I remember right, there was an NRA sponsored legislation to require a gun license ala a driver's license. It foundered and was abandoned for multiple reasons, among them: 1) The test, including a firing range component, was to be devised devised and administered by the NRA; 2) debate over the proper age for obtaining a license — ranged from 6 to 21; 3) scope of license, i.e did you need special endorsements for different types of gun (analogous to needing a CDL to drive semis or single/multi engine airplanes; and 4) inter-state reciprocity.
davew On Mon, Mar 29, 2021, at 9:52 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: > Hm. If you have to pull the trigger for each round (no bump fire), I > can see maybe doubling my rate with the Beretta, maybe even up to 50 > rounds. But 240? I'd be amazed. Hell, I'd do well just to flex my index > finger that many times, that fast, with nothing in my hand. Try it! I > got to 250 flexes, but my hand was cramping. For a trained and fit > soldier in their 20s or 30s, maybe. > > Regardless, your point's well taken. Even at 100 rpm, that's a lot more > inter-person damage than my little gun could do. And given that most > people are incompetent (or don't really, deep down, want to kill > anyone), lowering the fire rate may have some impact. But it still > seems like such a weak gesture, more like a campaign slogan than an > effective way to lower deaths by gun (which are dominated by suicides > anyway - a glacially slow revolver works well enough for suicide). > > Waiting periods and mandatory background checks (for every sale) seem > to have so much more bite. I'd like to see a licensing process. You > have to take a test to drive, why not require competence tests for gun > ownership? > > On 3/28/21 2:41 PM, Prof David West wrote: > > Granting all you say, there is one other aspect — rate of discharge. You > > can empty your Beretta in the time it takes my to fire 3-4 shots from my > > 357 revolver. A legal AR can probably discharge a full 250 round mega-clip > > in the time it takes you to empty, reload, and empty your Beretta. An > > illegal, full-auto, AR can get close to a single instance of your pistol > > being emptied. > > > > Mr Macho would eschew most long guns for the same reason as most pistols — > > too slow to fill the air with lead. Also does not need to worry about > > skill. In WWII the ration of bullets to causalities was 25,000/1. Because > > of closed and highly compacted spaces your average mass shooter does better > > 200-500/1 but still relies on luck rather than skill. > > > > Assassins (mob hit men, etc) prefer a 22 and achieve pretty much a 1/1 > > ratio. Effectiveness, not posturing, is what matters to them. > > -- > ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
