You darned cynics https://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/humanoids/darpa-selects-boston-dynamics-humanoid-for-robotics-challenge
https://www.themarlincompany.com/blog-articles/more-robots-workplace/ https://youtu.be/JGNopwFcz3A I'll find some aiding-the-handicapped examples if you like. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, Apr 3, 2021, 10:46 AM Steve Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > The "dancing" robots certainly are compelling to view, though I can see > why Gary asked if it was real or memorex (CGI)... there was enough uncanny > valley going on in their moves to make it clear that they were following a > prescribed choreography. The miniscule detail in the dance moves is what > I *think* makes it impressive. I am doubting that the proportions and > range of motion/etc of the robotic humanoids is as close to humans' as > implied by the constraints (in software, in choreography) imposed. > > I also wonder how much of this is essentially driven by something like > MoCap that is then tweaked to match the dynamical performance > envelope/constraints of the robot simulacrum? Or by derivation, ws ther > some kind of machine learning going on on a *suite* of human MoCap data > sets. Or is there a very capable cyber-choreographer who implicitly > understands the robot's "coupled impedance elements" in a way that allows > them to hack/hint/nuance the instructions down to this level of performance? > > Are these class of robots targeted for mission-spec autonomy or are they > more targeted to default to being Waldos with some self-driving constraints? > > I haven't tracked whether the Laban Notation movement has actually been > useful to extend into robotic-motion... it starts to seem relevant once > humanoid Robots are presented dancing human-dances. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laban_movement_analysis > > The "impressive illusion" is that these Robots are responding to the music > itself and to one another (couples dancing) in a way that seems highly > doubtful. They appear to be merely very artful puppets with wireless > "strings". No small feat, bringing them to this point, but the most > interesting/impressive aspects are likely careful bit-chiseling on the > instruction sets. > > > It would be more impressive if they were helping an elderly person go to > the bathroom. Chasing a person in irregular terrain would be convincing > too. > > On Apr 3, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Gary Schiltz <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks for letting me know. In that case, it is truly mind blowing. I had > no idea robotic tech had come so far. > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 10:57 AM Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Real!! >> >> --- >> Frank C. Wimberly >> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> >> 505 670-9918 >> Santa Fe, NM >> >> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021, 9:50 AM Gary Schiltz <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Serious question, since I didn't make it to vfriam yesterday. With the >>> advances in CGI these days, I don't know if this is computer generated or >>> real. Which is it? >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 10:02 AM Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> For those who haven't seen the video that was mentioned in yesterday's >>>> meeting: >>>> >>>> https://youtu.be/fn3KWM1kuAw >>>> >>>> Marc has accomplished a lot since this: >>>> >>>> >>>> - Raibert, M. H., Wimberly, F. C. 1984. Tabular control of balance >>>> in a dynamic legged system. *IEEE Trans. Systems, Man, and >>>> Cybernetics* 14:334--339. >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Frank C. 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