My friends in Mexico say the same. As my grandmother ( and all the other grandmas) used to say, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Why do we have excesses while poorer countries have shortages. I know that there are limits to the capacity to manufacture the vaccines but is a more equitable distribution not possible?
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, May 6, 2021, 2:33 PM Gary Schiltz <[email protected]> wrote: > Here is one reason to be interested: much of the world is still months, > maybe years, away from getting access to vaccines. My adopted country of > Ecuador as a case in point. > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 12:52 PM Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> This does not seem interesting to me. The vaccines have been >> demonstrated to be effective and safe to very large degrees based on many >> millions of inoculations. Why should I care about some suspect studies >> with small n. >> >> --- >> Frank C. Wimberly >> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> >> 505 670-9918 >> Santa Fe, NM >> >> On Thu, May 6, 2021, 11:33 AM <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear Phellow Phriammers, >>> >>> >>> >>> I have noted that most of what I have written here of late has been >>> ignored, and that’s ok, actually. Usually, it is the possibility that you >>> MIGHT read what I write that keeps me writing and, behaviorist to the last, >>> writing is what I need to do in order to think. >>> >>> >>> >>> But this situation is different. I really don’t know what to think >>> about Pavlovic’s >>> <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Dragan-Pavlovic-4> paper. There >>> may have been some trouble with the cloud version, so I have attached it to >>> this message. >>> >>> >>> >>> So, this is a case where I really need some help. I realize that you >>> are all engaged in this excellent correspondence about UBI, which has >>> revealed all sorts of “-ists” that I never thought were alive and well in >>> the world, let alone in this group. I would not interfere with that for a >>> second. But, could a few of you take a look at his paper >>> <https://1drv.ms/w/s!AptIKbsAd7gjllccpq9yXXQ4hb2N?e=HCzjaV> (very >>> short, a commentary, actually). I think he is actually a candidate for >>> this group. He is an MD, Phd, anaesthesiologist, retired in Paris, who has >>> participated in hundreds of scientific papers, who is passionate ( I >>> worry, perhaps sometimes a bit too passionate) about dozens of different >>> things and suspicious of everything. He wants, for instance, to dig a >>> gigantic tunnel to bring large ships directly from the danube to the >>> Mediterranean. >>> >>> >>> >>> I, of course, live in a bubble, but I don’t like to have that fact >>> thrust in my face as powerfully as when he reveals to me that the two >>> HAAA=VUD papers denouncing Chloquoroquine were retracted a year ago, and I >>> never found out. I can’t get any sense of whether there has been any >>> attempt to revive them or to redo the original clinical study that >>> suggested HCQ’s efficacy against CoVid. >>> >>> >>> >>> Any little bit of help you could give me would be great. >>> >>> >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> >>> >>> Nick Thompson >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:48 PM >>> *To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Cc:* 'Prof David West' <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear Colleagues, >>> >>> >>> >>> I attach a paper >>> <https://1drv.ms/w/s!AptIKbsAd7gjllccpq9yXXQ4hb2N?e=HCzjaV> written by >>> an internet acquaintance I made some years back, Dragan Pavlovic. I am >>> sending it along for two reasons. First, it reveals (to me, at least) that >>> the two negative studies on Hydroxychloroquine use in SARS-CoVid-19 >>> treatment were based on unverified data and were withdrawn by their authors >>> almost immediately. (Have the rest of you known this for the last year and >>> not told me? I cannot believe, after we pilloried poor Dave for advocating >>> for it, that he has not gloated about it. ) Second, Pavlovic raises the >>> intension/extension distinction in the context of the interpretation of >>> scientific results and also questions Randomized Control Trials as the >>> "Gold Standard" for discovery. Thus, I think he is a kindred spirit, being >>> a bit of a grumpy contrarian like many of us here. I have promised to >>> forward any comments you make to him, so be polite but speak truth. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> Nick Nicholas Thompson >>> >>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology >>> >>> Clark University >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >>> >> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >
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