How long do you have?

If a longer amount if time,  California,  absolutely.  Drive the beautiful
coastal highway from San Diego to the giant red woods (or at least San
Francisco).

If it is a short trip,  pick a warm beach in Florida. Miami or Key West or
something like that.  It will be a Big American Beach,  and you won't be
sad you didn't get around as much.


On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, 3:30 PM Jochen Fromm <j...@cas-group.net> wrote:

> Thanks Russ, that's very nice.
>
> I am not sure if Los Angeles is a good choice for us. Like New York it is
> such a huge city that it must be exhausting at times. California is of
> course fascinating. Maybe we start with the east coast as Pieter suggested.
>
> Do you plan to travel yourself too, now that you have a bit more time? Or
> do you have other plans? My wife would probably spend more time with her
> horse - she has bought a 19 year old black horse last month which she is
> riding once or twice a week. If I would have more time I would probably
> spend a lot of time in libraries or write another book which nobody reads
> :-)
>
> -J.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Russ Abbott <russ.abb...@gmail.com>
> Date: 7/1/21 19:16 (GMT+01:00)
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The Dream of Florida
>
> Agree with Marcus.
>
> On the other hand, California has much more variety wrt scenery than
> Florida or Hawaii. Also, the weather is typically much nicer than Florida.
> Even though it's July 1, it's in the mid 70's where we live (in Culver
> City <https://goo.gl/maps/icZyo81dKq6NPFtL7>).  But there is probably a
> 20-degree difference between downtown LA and the beach. And it gets even
> warmer further inland.
>
> We have a guest room, which you're welcome to use. The main problem will
> be that it has a single bed, which you will probably find crowded for two.
> It shouldn't be too bad for a few days, though.
>
> -- Russ
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 8:22 AM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Go to Maui!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *
>> thompnicks...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 1, 2021 7:29 AM
>> *To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <
>> friam@redfish.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] The Dream of Florida
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi, Jochen,
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s the word “relax” that stuck.  What follows is composed entirely of
>> prejudices and hearsay.  Hard for me to imagine relaxing anywhere in the
>> US, certainly not Florida.  Bear in mind California is given to cold water
>> beaches (because of the upwelling) (the hotter California gets, the colder
>> the beaches get) and Florida to warm water beaches (because of the Gulf
>> stream.  If I were wanting a Beach where I could Get Away From It All,  I
>> would go looking in Northern Michigan or perhaps some of the Ontario
>> coastline of the great lakes.  But bear in mind that the food in Rural
>> America is awful.   Take your espresso pot in your suitcase.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now Glen will immediately read me out for sweeping generalizations, as he
>> should.  What’s the pleasure in making generalizations that don’t sweep?
>> So every one of my SG’s has notable exceptions.  But they are hard to
>> find.  The best thing would be to find somebody you trust who knows of a
>> vacation cabin you could have in a month that the owner isn’t using it.
>> On the shore of Lake Winnipesauke in NH, say, only a couple of hours from
>> Boston.  The lake will be utterly deserted, except on weekends, when it
>> will be busy with stupid people on mindless water craft.    June in New
>> England has its hazards, of course.  You could have two weeks of drizzle or
>> two weeks of a thundering heatwave.  You might try Nantucket in the off
>> season.  I don’t know anything about that.   There is a little town just
>> over the border in New Brunswick where my family (rarely me) has gone for
>> generations, Called St. Andrews.  Terrible beaches, cold water, but a very
>> pleasant ethos.  And a 27 foot tide!  Local pastime: go to the causeway and
>> watch the tourists cars get inundated.   Don’t know about water temp on the
>> seaward side of Nova Scotia.  Any of these places, you could get lucky and
>> have a hot June, get unlucky and sit in the fog for a month.
>>
>>
>>
>> N
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick Thompson
>>
>> thompnicks...@gmail.com
>>
>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Jochen Fromm
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 1, 2021 2:15 AM
>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>> Friam@redfish.com>
>> *Subject:* [FRIAM] The Dream of Florida
>>
>>
>>
>> We are planning a vacation in the USA next year, if we are still healthy
>> and do not lose our jobs. What do you think is the best sunshine state to
>> relax, Florida or California? Or maybe New Mexico? The best time for
>> Florida is probably spring or early summer before the hurricanes? Or is
>> Florida in a crisis now too?
>>
>>
>> https://slate.com/business/2021/06/miami-condo-collapse-florida-building-industry-crisis.html
>>
>>
>>
>> -J.
>>
>>
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