My last three requests were: Serenata Huasteca
Mozart And a song Dylan wrote that someone said was a confession about his seducing a young girl. WRT the last, I wanted to see why he said that. I suspect that the intersection of my requests and the Top 50 is empty. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 1:41 PM Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> wrote: > > He *hates* Alexa, Amazon, and especially Amazon Music. > > > What is there to hate? They just play music you request. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 12:47 PM Steve Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 8/22/21 8:28 AM, ⛧ glen wrote: >> >> It does both, perhaps counterintuitively. I'd argue it facilitates traffic >> between demes/cliques, but inhibits the content of demes/cliques. >> >> >> I am a sucker for local AM radio when traveling... to put my finger on >> the pulse of the locals, as it were. What music they listen to, what their >> news-of-choice leans toward, and what they are buying/selling/trading with >> one another. "If you can hear this station, what you hear *might* be >> relevant to you *right now*" >> >> When internet radio stations started popping up (KTAO in Taos being an >> early adopter), I found myself sampling these local stations around the >> world... one in particular being in Australia (forget the call sign/town) >> and having a strong familiarity to the myriad country AND western stations >> up and down the rockies and out into the plains of the US West, but with an >> Aussie accented DJ of course. Unfortunately it didn't replicate the >> experience because I was patently NOT there... I could NOT plan a detour to >> catch the local farmer's market or check out a local joint (where there >> burgers would have pineapple and plum sauce instead of pickles and >> ketchup)... But what I was most struck by was that they were playing 95% >> American Mainstream (C&W) music and referencing OUR icons of music >> deeply/exclusively. Only occasionally would I catch a "local" artist >> (Australeonesia?) I felt simultaneously expanded and constrained. >> >> When I moved to a small city/big town on the border (DouglasAZ/Agua >> Prieta SA) our first neighbors were a Mexican American family who were one >> of the local bands that played every venue, mostly rock but with their own >> ranchera stylization often. They would sit around evenings playing a wide >> range of music, including the father, a sister and a younger brother (maybe >> 5? too young to participate in the public events). We moved away from >> that house within 6 months but I continued to hear them the whole 8 years I >> lived in that town, they probably played at both of my proms and any other >> public musical event I might have attended. What never crossed my mind >> (until now) was that for the 4 years I was a Disc Jockey, I never heard >> them play on air, nor was I motivated/inclined to seek them out. Why not? >> Linda Ronstadt (100 miles away) was hitting it big from similar roots, why >> not them? I guess because they weren't on the Billboard Top 100 charts >> they sent us every month, telling us what was hot and what was not? They >> had no route to get known beyond the local bars and public venues. >> >> Both of my daughters partnered with aspiring musicians as they came of >> age. There have been several bands involved and those partners even >> occasionally found time to make music together (though never recorded >> together). These bands never made it beyond local recognition... "Billy >> and the Belmonts", "Oktober People", "Weapons of Mass Destruction" all come >> to mind. And yet one of them was going on a self-promoted tour of the >> west when we were in Berkeley, CA for a year and in fact, totally by >> coincidence, had gotten booked at an Irish Pub ("Starry Plough") just a >> short walk from our apartment (actually probably the closest watering hole >> to our apartment). It was just off Telegraph, right on the Oakland border >> (as was our back fence)... in what other world (pre/sans Internet) could a >> band like that find a pub like that? While Terry (daughter's now husband) >> had the resources (as a Technical College instructor) to own a van, mix >> their own music on Garage Band, cut their own CDs and print their own >> T-shirts (aka Merch)... They would have been sleeping in his van the whole >> way (instead of being gifted couch-stays by their nascent mySpace fan base) >> and would have had to make a LOT of phone calls and snail-mail inquiries to >> secure the venues they were able to do online through the digital social >> networks circa 2005. Their music was out there for sampling on MySpace >> and while all that (the bands as well as MySpace) are all defunct and >> rotting away in digital history, it made it a lot further than I think it >> could have in the days of vinyl or cassette tape. I do still have CDs of >> their music and it is ripped to my hard drive as well... but can't find any >> of it to speak of online 8 years after dissolution. My t-shirts are all >> rags now, they were made on budget blanks I'm sure. >> >> Terry (of WMD/Belmont fame) is now the bass player for Queen Chief in >> Portland OR. Their preferred streaming platform seems to be bandcamp.com >> which seems to be *trying* to provide a direct route from artist to >> audience, but unspurprisingly Alexa doesn't support Bandcamp and while they >> also stream on Spotify, my understanding of that service is that they won't >> see any significant income from that stream. I don't believe any of the >> band members depends on the band for a significant source of income, Terry >> certainly doesn't, though it may support his recording/instrument >> collecting habits somewhat. >> >> They just released a couple of singles this year. A stoner rock >> rendition of Hank William's classic "Kaw-Liga >> <https://open.spotify.com/album/2U88jwoi9ZKRHjTgG1YIDu>" and their own In >> my Eyes <https://open.spotify.com/album/1oaVT5IS8jIm6xpJ2RlH2o>. >> >> Spotify refers me right away to bands (I presume equally >> struggling/indie) like King Black Acid, Royal Fuz, RZRS, and Hurriah. >> While I like QC's lyrics and musical "style" it is all too high energy for >> my old ears/soul, so I tend to listen to a new track or album a few times >> when it comes out, but don't have it ripped to my car sound system nor pull >> it up regularly (though In my Eyes is thumping/chanting away in the >> background as I type this)... >> >> Mary's son (who edits bills for the TX legislature by day) is also a >> drummer in an indie band in Austin and they eschew streaming in favor of >> the (semi) classic medium of CDs and live-shows. They gently dissolved >> last year after a 10 year run... the quarterly live-shows in various >> dive-bars were what was keeping them going (emotionally/creatively?)... >> and they also have all hit middle age. >> >> Digital/Online/Streaming has definitely changed the fitness landscape for >> aspiring independent artists and for music buffs. Mary's son is a total >> movie/music buff and shares his listening time between classic vinyl and >> the flood of new music coming to him over his own social networks from >> friends of friends of friends who are independent singer-songwriters/bands. >> >> I like Glen's gesture toward analyzing this in terms of network/graph >> models... I think the data is out there for anyone to gather/study up to a >> point. Josh's (Mary's son) collection of vinyl and hand-cut CDs probably >> is hidden for the most part from any database, though he *might* not be >> astute enough to turn off Google/Android's "what music is playing right >> now" service... maybe what he listens to is being analyzed on some Google >> Brat's Friday Project right now? He *hates* Alexa, Amazon, and especially >> Amazon Music. >> >> It's a wild new world, even though everything feels pretty much the same >> (only different). >> >> - Steve >> >> >> >> >> On August 22, 2021 6:51:02 AM PDT, Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> In the last virtual FRIAM meeting Jonathan Zingale mentioned that streaming >> services confine our access to music, because they mainly offer mainstream >> music.IMHO they also broaden our access to music: as a European I can listen >> to music from all around the world. I have for example German, Italian, >> Australian, British, American and Spanish playlists on Spotify. This weak I >> have listened for instance to a Spanish >> songhttps://open.spotify.com/track/1MdsletWuIR9ItEnitWRwp?si=yZPJfu01R_6RAmw9ang8mQDo >> you feel streaming services restrict our access to music or do they extend >> it? :-/-J. >> >> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> >
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