Very nice! What I keep *wanting* to hear from Nick or EricC is a mechanism by which very tiny, very fast processes inside the body interact with very tiny, very fast processes outside the body. I.e. a demonstration (or simply rhetoric) of membrane openness (permeability, lack of closure). I.e. not all tiny/fast processes are bundled up into larger/slower processes at the interface between inside and outside.
If they made that (inherently compositional) argument, then ... then then then, we could talk about a taxonomy of process from tiny/fast to huge/slow, across spatiotemporal and functional scales. And with such a taxonomy, we could talk about which ones facilitate the Markovian processes EricS mentioned, required to successfully challenge "the hard problem" from a behaviorist perspective. On 8/26/21 8:05 AM, Curt McNamara wrote: > Bucky Fuller on apprehension / comprehension of systems: > http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s05/figs/f0901.html > <http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s05/figs/f0901.html> > > We ignore larger / slower frequencies. We also ignore smaller / faster > frequencies. > http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s05/p0600.html#509.01 > <http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s05/p0600.html#509.01> > > Curt > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 9:55 AM uǝlƃ ☤>$ <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Ouch! Dude. No! 8^D You're committing the same sin Nick commits. To say > we "are" our emotions ignores the composition, the algebra by which parts > compose the whole. > > The point is the very high order conscious *attention* to lower order > frequencies. Not all is one. There are many parts to organize. How are they > organized? > > On 8/26/21 7:50 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > > >> E.g. when Bob wakes up startled, he interprets the situation into > "fear". But when Sally wakes up startled, she interprets the situation into > "excitement" or some other /a priori/, socially limiting, filter category. > > Thus my earlier suggestion that "we" "are" our emotions? Bob *is* his > > propensity to read the lower-level response of "startlement" (closer to > > autonomic) to "fear" (closer to choice). Sally also as "excitement". > > > -- > ☤>$ uǝlƃ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > <http://bit.ly/virtualfriam> > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > <http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com> > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > <http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/> > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/> > > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > -- ☤>$ uǝlƃ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
