The most widely used drug for open heart surgery was discovered by a woman researching zombies in Haiti. There were (probably no longer are) well documented cases of zombies, people pronounced dead by physicians, buried, dug up late that night and seen wandering around the village with severely reduced mental capacity, shuffling walk, etc. etc.
Bad people would use a poison akin to curare (actually came from a species of puffer fish if I remember correctly) to "kill someone. It had the effect of reducing heart beat / respiration to levels below stethoscope / naked ear detectable levels. Person was buried almost immediately after death pronouncement (it is hot in Haiti with no embalming). Poisoned person wakes up buried alive as the drug wears off - shortly before being dug up by bad guy. Instant Zombie, both trauma and the drug adversely affecting mental capacity. There is an entire field of ethnobotany and ethnopharmacology devoted to discovering and documenting exactly this kind of folk cure - natural healing - holistic healing - etc. Western medicine often has a hard time discovering the "chemistry behind such cures" because they are looking for a specific problem and a (usually) single chemical "cure." Most folk medicine and long established areas like Aryuvedic medicine focus on multi-factor "cures" addressing multi-factor problems - all in a complex balance and set of associations. davew On Tue, Aug 31, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > Our daughter's inlaws are Evangelical Christians. They support Trump but > they got their vaccinations as soon as they could except for our son-in-law > who resisted until our daughter got forceful. He still resists wearing a > mask. The mother said she's decided that both the left and the right are > insane. We have to be careful because if our grandson get exposed via his > mother he won't be able to go to his fourth grade class for a while. They're > all expecting test results today. Son-in-law has been coughing and has a > fever. If he tests positive we may have a full guest house. > > > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 10:59 AM Roger Critchlow <[email protected]> wrote: >> I don't know, there are many reasons why a pharmaceutical company might >> fail. >> >> One of the most spectacular is illustrated by googling "glycoRNA". So, a >> whole class of biological compounds, short RNA sequences decorated with >> glycans (also known as polysaccharides), first suspected to exist in 2019 >> (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/787614v1.full) turn out to exist in >> 2021 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cell.2021.04.023) in spades, all over cell >> membranes. Nobody knew these compounds existed, so no one was looking to >> develop them or antagonists to them into drugs. >> >> On the other hand, the snake oil sellers don't just kill their customers, >> they also traumatize the survivors. If the advertisers on Tucker will screw >> you, who can you trust? >> >> -- rec -- >> >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 11:35 AM uǝlƃ ☤>$ <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Yeah, I suppose a locus on the left centers around the concepts of >>> "natural", "organic", or "holistic" whereas on the right it's more >>> fractured, objective oriented. And since much of science is structured by >>> focused objectives, the righties tend to align with targeted science and >>> the lefties tend to align with things like "emergence" and multifarious >>> conditions (like chronic lyme disease or fibromyalgia or ... climate >>> change). It would be fun to find out how many casual yoga goers describe >>> themselves as left or right. (I imagine actual yogis would avoid the >>> question. 8^D) >>> >>> In the end, nonlinearity is hard for everyone. Where pharma has a crisp >>> target, it will find a treatment. But where the target's not so crisp, >>> it'll likely fail. >>> >>> >>> On 8/31/21 8:15 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >>> > On one hand there is woo-woo, but others have semi-reasonable concerns >>> > that drug candidates don't make it through the medical establishment. I >>> > am skeptical about that because pharma stands to make money from any >>> > compounds that work, and they have huge investments in high throughput >>> > screening. So it seems to me they'd probably find the chemistry behind >>> > herbal remedies. >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ >>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 7:31 AM >>> > To: [email protected] >>> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact? >>> > >>> > I don't want to be a "both sides" person. But there's plenty of that on >>> > the left, too. I suppose it's for products like Paltrow's: >>> > https://goop.com/ Or reiki. Or crystals. Snake oil is non-partisan. >>> > >>> > One thing that's a toss-up for me is the NCCIH: >>> > https://www.nccih.nih.gov/ On the one hand, I'm an integrationist ... and >>> > my contrariness demands I respect *complementary*. But some of the stuff >>> > they support research into looks like hogwash to me. I try to keep an >>> > open mind, though. >>> > >>> > On 8/31/21 7:09 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >> *//*So saith Paul Krugman: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/30/opinion/covid-misinformation-supple >>> >> ments.html >>> >> <https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/30/opinion/covid-misinformation-suppl >>> >> ements.html> >>> >> >>> >> Once you’re sensitized to the link between snake oil and right-wing >>> >> politics, you realize that it’s pervasive. >>> >> >>> >> This is clearly true in the right’s fever swamps. Alex Jones of Infowars >>> >> has built a following by pushing conspiracy theories, but he makes money >>> >> by selling nutritional supplements >>> >> <https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/05/how-does-alex-jones-make-money.html>. >>> >> It’s also true, however, for more mainstream, establishment parts of >>> >> the right. For example, Ben Shapiro, considered an intellectual on the >>> >> right, hawks supplements.Look at who advertises >>> >> <https://tvrev.com/whos-still-advertising-with-tucker-carlson-at-the-end-of-q2-2021/> >>> >> on Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show. After Fox itself, the top >>> >> advertisers are My Pillow, then three supplement companies.Snake oil >>> >> peddlers, clearly, find consumers of right-wing news and punditry a >>> >> valuable market for their wares. So it shouldn’t be surprising to find >>> >> many right-leaning Americans ready to see vaccination as a liberal plot >>> >> and turn to dubious alternatives — although, again, I didn’t see >>> >> livestock dewormer coming. >>> >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ☤>$ uǝlƃ >>> >>> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >
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