I am not sure if Europe is more civilized than America. We have our own problems. In Germany for example there is no speed limit on highways in general. Some people are proud of it, others want to end this freedom because it increases pollution and traffic accidents. Driving 200 km/h (124 mph) can be nice, but it also has drawbacks. Any speed limits have been prevented so far by the powerful car industry, which is the most important industry here. I would say the car culture here is comparable to the weapon culture in the US. But it is going to change: gasoline and diesel cars will be banned in 10-15 years.-J. -------- Original message --------From: "uǝlƃ ☤>$" <[email protected]> Date: 10/23/21 00:04 (GMT+01:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Breakfast in Santa Fe Well, to contrast that a bit, I've had guns pointed at me (aggressively) 3 times. (Many more "playfully".) None of them pulled the trigger, luckily. But that just proves that they do NOT take guns seriously. They are more toy, less weapon ... which makes them even more dangerous. Also, 2 of my friends from high school were murdered, one with a gun, one with a knife.This country is more violent than privileged white dudes might have you believe. Jochen would be wise to take vacation in a civilized country.On 10/22/21 2:50 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:> Jochen,> > I've spent more than 1/3 of my 78 years in New Mexico including the last 22. I've never been shot at, I've never seen anyone be shot, and I've never known anyone who was killed or wounded by gunfire. I used to shoot rabbits when I was a teenager but I regret that very much.> > The police I've interacted with are courteous and try to be as helpful as possible. My original comment was said tongue-in-cheek. I should have used a smiley.> > > Frank> > ---> Frank C. Wimberly> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,> Santa Fe, NM 87505> > 505 670-9918> Santa Fe, NM> > On Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 3:08 PM Merle Lefkoff <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:> > No. If you read the article carefully, sometimes guns with blanks and guns without bullets can kill people, and it has happened befofe on movie sets. It was a terrible and tragic accident. I'm sure we'll learn what went wrong.> > On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 9:55 AM <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:> > J-____> > __ __> > Your note does seem to suggest that you are coming. I would greatly look forward to meeting with you, if that is the case. ____> > __ __> > It is my understanding that loaded guns are normally prohibited on movie sets for the obvious reasons. Somebody must have been effing nuts. ____> > __ __> > Nick Thompson____> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>____> > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/>____> > __ __> > *From:* Friam <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly> *Sent:* Friday, October 22, 2021 7:52 AM> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Breakfast in Santa Fe____> > __ __> > Too many loaded guns in NM.____> > __ __> > Are you coming here Jochen? We used to meet at St John's College coffee shop. There are many excellent places to have breakfast here. I recommend Saveur.____> > ---> Frank C. Wimberly> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,> Santa Fe, NM 87505> > 505 670-9918> Santa Fe, NM____> > __ __> > On Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 2:06 AM Jochen Fromm <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:____> > Today in the morning Santa Fe was in the news on TV. They reported that Actor Alec Baldwin has accidentally shot a camera woman, because the gun used for acting was fully loaded. It is rare that Santa Fe is mentioned here in the news> https://apnews.com/article/entertainment-arts-and-entertainment-new-mexico-movies-santa-fe-915b39db68b559f03103171fdaecca79 <https://apnews.com/article/entertainment-arts-and-entertainment-new-mexico-movies-santa-fe-915b39db68b559f03103171fdaecca79>> > Where do you go for breakfast for normal FRIAM meetings (not virtual ones)? What are the best coffeeshops and cafes in Santa Fe?____> -- "Better to be slapped with the truth than kissed with a lie."☤>$ uǝlƃ.-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - .FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listservZoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriamun/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.comFRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
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