I was asking what categories, eg monads, comonads, all these abstractions on the abstractions of mathematics, want, since that might help me understand how they see their purpose, given that I was already being asked about the purpose of a platonic solid.
I hadn't thought about the prehistoric models of platonic solids crafted in rock, they can have purposes like other material objects. Nor had I considered making the jump from abstract mathematical constructs to groups of people sharing characteristics. And I was being silly, but I was provoked. -- rec -- On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 1:36 PM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> wrote: > Will AIs want the same things I want? I think Roger was just being > silly, but `categories’ could be wrangled into to some vaguely adjacent > thing like typed computer programs for autonomous control systems in a > robot. Let’s call it a careful robot. Will all intelligent life be like > humans and will they want love and recognition? Why must that be the > case? Why must it be true for humans? Why does HR assume I even want a > safe space? I’m reminded of George Packer’s Free America, Smart America, > Real America and Just America. None of them really gave a damn about the > others as far as I can tell. It is just a model, of course. > > > > > https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/07/george-packer-four-americas/619012/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of * > [email protected] > *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2021 11:30 AM > *To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] we are lost > > > > Ok, So, Marcus, > > > > > What do categories want? > > > > Love, recognition and safety? Someone phone HR and get the ball rolling > on a new policy! > > > > Spoken from the high perch of Irony. Irony is like wormwood, delightful > in small doses but ultimately toxic. Do we not all want love, recognition, > and safety? Do we also want excitement and challenge. Go figure! Some > of us crave more of the one; some more of the other. Given the > contradiction between those things, can we expect the right balance be > guaranteed for each and every one of us, for all time? No. Of course > not. But is that reason to mock human striving toward these goals? Or to > mock Utilitarian attempts to facilitate their achievement? No. I don’t > think so. Irony is a guilty pleasure. Even though I use it and enjoy it, > I have to admit that it is a an abdication and fails as a policy. > > > > Nick > > > > Nick Thompson > > [email protected] > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 8:18 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] we are lost > > > > > > > So, not only do we attribute teleology to inanimate objects, weather, > animals, and people, but also to the platonic solids. Which probably leads > to: > > > > > > What do categories want? > > > > Love, recognition and safety? Someone phone HR and get the ball rolling > on a new policy! > > > > Marcus > > > > .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > archives: > > 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > > .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: > 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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