I've been dropping notes (poems) in a bottle in the Rio Grande for
decades now... I suppose if I offered them for sale to down-river folks,
that would suffice (even one single annual sale?)
Cody, wanna buy a poem in a Bulliet Rye bottle? It is up to you to
wait at the banks of the Rio Grande to catch it. Actually you would
need to go paddle-board around Cochiti lake to find it I suppose.
On 1/21/22 10:24 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
or commerce and navigability may be accomplished by a NM Stream
Commission contract to continuously survey the waterway bathymetry
with unmanned surface vehicles:
https://www.oceanalpha.com/product-item/sl40/
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On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 10:16 AM Stephen Guerin
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Cody,
Noticed that issue made international news and was covered by the
Guardian in 2018.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/mar/15/privatized-rivers-us-public-lands-waterways
I suspect you're aware but didn't mention is Federal doctrine of
"Navigable Servitude" that ties navigability to State Ownership
that prevents the riverbed from converting to private land.
* See:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navigable_servitude
* https://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Wiki/stewardship:navigability
Note from this article the concept of proving "Susceptibly of
Commerce"
" If the river has ever been demonstrably been used for
commerce, then it can readily be found navigable under federal
law. However, many states have also accepted demonstrations
that the waterway is merely capable of commerce as proof of
susceptibility.
Commerce refers to the ability to transport goods to or from
market, or for sale. Commerce inherently includes the right of
navigation. Commerce and therefore navigation includes
transportation of timber, as well as transport by barge
traffic or oceangoing ships. Some states have also accepted
evidence of use by a commercial raft company, or kayak or
canoe school as evidence of commercial navigability.
If the river was used for transporting goods for sale prior to
statehood, then the river is clearly navigable by federal
definition. As such, the bed and the bank up to the mean high
water mark are owned by the state and held in trust for the
public."
It would be interesting to have a site to track craft GPS and
imagery to continue to maintain public ownership. The
Realtime.Earth app could be a kind of crowdsourced RiverView ala
Google Street View. I also wonder what would qualify as craft as
navigation. Certainly barges with no onboard pilots and dragged by
mules on the side and "remote piloting" qualified. I would think a
legal argument could be made drone craft with GPS and
cameras qualify as navigation craft. Also would be safer given the
barbed wire obstacles.
WRT to establishing commerce, we can set up a Culinary Mushroom
delivery service where supply is put in on the river (up or
downstream as a drone boat can probably handle it) and customers
retrieve the Culinary (or other) mushrooms somewhere else.
Citizens can buy a Crypto Coin to support the project as well as
convert their Coins as they are backed by mushrooms. As we've
talked about at the office, this could be the worlds first
Fungible Currency and imagery could be sold as Fungible Tokens :-)
-Stephen
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 3:22 AM cody dooderson
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Forgive me while I hijack this rant to append my own
political rant?
Here is some background. I live in New Mexico, which is a land
of very little water. Last year I got interested in stand up
paddle boarding in the few rivers that annually have enough
water to float on. It is a great way to see wildlife and avoid
the summer heat. New Mexico is lucky enough to have a state
constitution that protects people's rights to use waterways [1].
Our previous Governor, who was basically a spokesperson for
rich private interests (AKA Texans), silently made a rule that
allowed land owners (Texans) to put barbed wire across the
rivers. It only takes a few fences to make a river non
navigable by inflatable boat. That rule is mostly not enforced
because it is unconstitutional, and unfair. It is currently on
it's way to the supreme court. I probably don't need to
mention that the rich landowners have much more money in this
fight than the rafters and fisherman.
In the meantime, our current governor, who is a Democrat with
some arguably dictator-like tendencies, has started to fire
every game commissioner who refuses to enforce the previously
mentioned unconstitutional rule. There have been 2 so far [2].
I am curious what her motivations are. Is there such a thing
as lobbyist induced Stockholm syndrome?
Cody Smith
[1] New Mexico Consttution. Article 16 Section 2.
https://ballotpedia.org/Article_XVI,_New_Mexico_Constitution
[2] Much more information with links.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Albuquerque/comments/s3zdrk/governor_removes_another_qualified_commissioner/
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 2:08 AM Jochen Fromm
<[email protected]> wrote:
Let me try to view it from a complexity perspective:
After the Cold War we thought capitalism has won and
communism lost, but it is not that simple. Now we see the
drawbacks of capitalism too. Companies in capitalism were
forced to reduce their costs and all the jobs went to
China where most supply chains end now. Nature is
exploited in capitalism globally on a unprecedented scale.
The climate is broken and the world is burning. The world
drowns in waste: plastic waste, nuclear waste, e-waste, ....
The system is not only producing trash, it even sells
trash wrapped in lies. Fast food corporations ruin our
health by selling fake food and paying their workers
extremely low slave wages. They spend a lot of money for
ads and marketing though, but marketing can be considered
as the art of lying. Amazon has successfully destroyed all
bookstores and pays its workers in fulfillment centers not
enough to make a living. Facebook aka Meta helps to
destroy democracy while Mark Zuckerberg enjoys his life in
his giant estate in Hawaii.
Gil is right, the world is broken in many ways. Obviously
we need to support our politicians in understanding the
mess and in finding ways to fix it. Complexity science
helps us to study complex systems on a large scale, to
understand how they work, how they interact and how they
can fail. The SFI in Santa Fe is known worldwide as a
promoter for work in this important area, even if it might
appear as a shabby or boring building to local residents.
-J.
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From: Stephen Guerin <[email protected]>
Date: 1/14/22 05:31 (GMT+01:00)
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] One of many things the country is
fucked on
Gil,
I love you, man. Maybe a little less gratuitous graphic
imagery in the rants.
Extra points if you can tie the rants to some kind of
Complexity perspective - Not that that is too common
here. :-)
-Stephen
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On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 4:31 PM Gillian Densmore
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The maslows are just fucked. Reason number 99999 out
of googolplex.
To save myself a lot of mental wear and tair. and to
save some on gass. I had hoped I could shop amazon
pantry. for at least some of it.
-a lot of the basics: breakfast cerials, or bagels
aint available for SNAP,or even at all where I am
geographically speaking. I guess bozo the the clown
doesn't consider santa fe a real place. Welcome to
club ahole.
-Snack stuff is equally hit and mis for just being
available
-same for cleaning sprays and gels
Oh but I can get my cookies and MnMs on all I want.
The very fact that 500 some odd twats even consider a
weekly alowence er um sorry "Universal income" as a
question. Is just fucking stupid. If they can't even
get around to, uh ya know fixing the economy, having
universal healthcare and blah blah. They sure the fuck
can get the havenots like yours truely a god damn
alowence. my SDI from inflation just don't go all that
far. And trumpster types winge about 'oh being lazy
blah blah' .they see the news, they know, just as well
as this list does. Jobs sucked a fat dick back in
2014 because of slave-wages. they suck more now
because of that, and covid reasons. Plus fact is not
100% of people can work if they want to. Just not
enough slots to do that.
I fail to understand why it is that with a super
fragile ecosystem home delivery is just a basic.
Getting out for fresh is great. Telling what's left of
air to get reked not so much.
-Me the one sane dude left.
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