On 2/25/22 7:33 AM, glen wrote:
I am still unclear about how self-organized/appointed dis-organizations like Anonymous can actually work. I don't mean that critically as much as hopefully. I am trying to understand how emergent distributed collectives self-organize enough to exist, much less achieve (transitory) homeostasis. It is fascinating in the abstract as well as in the specifics of space-time events such as this article references. I'd love to hear more reflection/discussion, even speculation about this.I guess I spoke too soon:https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/anonymous-attacks-russia-ukraine-invasion-rt-ddos-b2023177.html
It looks like they are down now, or at least very askew. I get some crufty bits in my browser (but without inspecting the html/javascript/css source, which I am ill-equipped and in any case loathe to do) and take it to mean there is significant interference afoot (more like direct server hack or Man in the Middle than DDOS).rt.com was down around 3am. But it's back, now, with a fresh story about he "denazification" of Ukraine. [sigh]https://www.rt.com/russia/550617-response-to-negotiations-ukraine/
I've not read much from/by/about CounterPunch but they are part of one of the tangled webs I feel you must live in, because so often when you offer us a nice cozy-looking warren, we find it is twisty-turny passages all the way down (into a looking glass wonderland?). Again, not to criticize... I assume this means *you* have the capacity to go further, dig deeper, deconvolute the convolutions than I (apparently) do. The only thing I can summarize from reading this article is a reminder that "my enemy's enemy is not my friend".Of course, is it fake news that our agent in Ukraine may have helped "nazify" them? https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/25/basic-notes-on-victoria-fuck-the-eu-nuland/
Re: my last paragraph. Your depth seems to exceed mine by more than a little, but I *do* appreciate your willingness to tease these things apart (not just tease us with them) in front of us as much as you do (try). It is often frustrating and unsatisfying, but that, I think, is the nature of the beast, not attributable to the messenger.I'm too ignorant to tease it all apart.
But it doesn't really matter why Putin's doing what he's doing ... like our silly "mens rea" principle. What matters is the killing, not the intentions of the killer.
As I contemplate the sensing/modeling/action cycle and try to fit it into some abstraction of consciousness, I think we absolutely *must* take into the intentions of the killer. That is not to say that we should conflate excuses with reasons and vice-versa, or that in some ethical sense we (always?) give a pass to "innocent" mistakes, yet it seems dys-functional to not factor in the (apparent) black-box logic of an adversary/co-conspirator.
I have been planning a European trip in spite of Greta and Fauci's shrill admonitions, but with Putin's swagger, perhaps I will put it off a bit longer. After all, it seems that container-ship-sailing (my ideation of the least impactful of commercial modes of ocean-crossings) may be a thing of the past (between COVID and port-backups).
"interesting times" indeed. I've reported here before on Gibson's (semi) recent (and impending) Jackpot Trilogy and my fascination with his (nicely unspecified) conception of "The Jackpot" but recently discovered a small group of shared-world authors, organized by John Scalzi whose shared-world is a 2030ish post-collapse world which very nicely (IMO) lampoons/implicates both neoCon and neoLibs alike with enough of my own techno-luddite-green-spectra ideations. A key linkage to "Jackpot" is that they use the phrases "soft collapse" and "soft recovery" in a way that complements the (more usual) short-sharp-shock collapses of Apocalyptic fiction.
Jumble, - StevePS. I recently heard the term "Q Cucks Klan" for the first time... it seems so acutely pointed and lampoony and "right on" that I would surely remember it if I'd heard it before. On the Q-anon backstory, I wonder how many others here have held Q or other Gov clearances and how their experience with that supports/denies the attributions folks give to Q his/herself?
On 2/24/22 10:24, glen wrote:Where is Anonymous?
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