The US claims to be giving the Ukraine government intel "in real time" but the Ukraine claims, and points to several examples, that often there is a lag of hours to as much as a day between our knowing something and transmitting it to the Ukraine.
davew On Wed, Mar 9, 2022, at 11:44 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Did NATO forget to pack surface-to-surface missiles in the goodie bag? The > US knows where the Russian artillery forces are, and are telling the > Ukrainians, right? > Why are they not yet Sunflowers? It seems like the Russians are distracting > everyone with these civilian attacks why they work for territory in the south. > > *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jochen Fromm > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:05 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Enamine > > > Look at this CNN video. It shows an Ukrainian who has lost 5 family members > because his home was struck by Russian missiles. The terror on his face is > real. An innocent civilian who has lost everything: his family and his home. > If this is not a war, then what is? It is a war of Putin against Ukraine > because he feels threatened by the democracy there. He wants to submit the > neighboring country to his authoritarian rule where his opponents are > poisoned, shot or imprisoned. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU3wJc9WmRI > > -J. > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Sarbajit Roy <[email protected]> > Date: 3/9/22 19:31 (GMT+01:00) > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Enamine > > Marcus if I can clarify some of this. > The "West Ukrainian" people feel BETRAYED by Russia's attack on their > country, As fraternal Slavs they did not expect it considering their past > history with Russia. > > Putin is making it clear that he is not targeting the Ukrainian people, per > se, but the ZELENKSY regime personally. The "Z" stands for Zelenksy regime > which has incorporated "neo-Nazi" armed irregular divisions which fought the > East Ukranians into the regular Ukranian army. > > > The Russian battle against these "Nazis" will be fought in Mariuopl and > perhaps Odessa, and it will be extremely brutal and uncivilised. > > Putin has also sent in mainly conscripts (although he denies it) elsewhere as > (a) it bloodies them cheaply and b) they are less brutal than his hardened > troops and foreign mercenaries who will be used in urban warfare assaults > against the southern port cities. > Lastly as a reminder, Putin was prepared for deaths of 150 of his own > civilians to take out 40 hardcore Chechen rebels in the Oct 2002 opera house > hostage crisis. Something unacceptable in the West. > Sarbajit >>> >> >> .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: >> 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >> > > .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: > 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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