I hope the imperial measurement system is the next thing to go.

Yah... I can't wait for 10 hour days with 100 days a year and 10, 10 day months or would it be 10 10 m-week m-months made up of 10 m-day m-weeks and 10 m-hour m-days?  10,000 m-hour-things a year? Each m-hour made up of 100 m-minutes and 100 m-seconds per m-minute? or 10,000 m-seconds per m-hour?   I think that is roughly 52 old-minutes per m-hour so about 2 m-minutes per old-minute and about 1.6 old-second per m-minute?   Is that 10^8 m-seconds per year?   And a purist would probably insist on there being 10&10 m-seconds per year, though we could instead use m-msecs as our atomic unit of perception, though that would be 10^11 ?  Or settle for m-centi-secs?  I might barely be able to perceptually recognize things at that level since it is vaguely down near the frequencies where

I'm not sure how to get the sun and moon to sign up for all that.  Or revert everything to sexigesimal instead... maybe add a finger on each hand to simplify the counting thing?

In the kitchen and with lumber and cordage I find halves and quarters and even eighths easier to work with than tenths.   I get the convenience of metric for calculation with decimal number systems...   but dividing things into halves and halves of halves and even thirds is a pretty compelling intuitive process. Sexigesimal (60) invokes 5ths  as well which then supports/allows/extends the ability to divide by 2,3,5 or more elaborately 360 base with 3,4,5,6 divisors.   I find that playing cards (solitaire and some rummy-like-games) as a child informed me in base 4 (suites) base 13 (ace-king) and therefore base 52 intuitions which ultimately spilled over into weeks of the moon(th) and moon(ths) of the year.   Quartering the Moon and Sun cycle gives us intuitively compelling (registered on nature's evident rhythms) basis for 7-day weeks and 3 moon(th) Seasons of sorts.   I've never experienced directly a lunar calendar but have friends who are Muslim who end up with a lunar-solar sense of annual scheduling.  I think if I lived in a more temperate/equatorial geography, lunar/lunar-solar might be more obvious.   Also if I lived more outside of a climate controlled house and did more night-time hunting/warring, the phases of the moon would be (yet) more evident/important.

- Gramble



On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 1:00 PM cody dooderson <[email protected]> wrote:

    For those of you who don't get all of your news from XKCD,
    https://xkcd.com/2594 .

    On Wed, Mar 16, 2022, 3:03 PM Gillian Densmore
    <[email protected]> wrote:



        On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 5:34 PM Steve Smith <[email protected]>
        wrote:


            On 3/15/22 3:29 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
            > Please pass
            >
            
https://www.cnet.com/culture/senate-unanimously-passes-bill-to-make-daylight-saving-time-permanent/

            >
            > I had to google that this wasn't early April fools, or
            that I was
            > misreading things.

            except they got it backwards?   People who *like* getting
            up and going
            to work before the sun comes up should find a job where
            that is
            rewarded, or at least accepted... there are many. But how
            many folks
            want to walk into work from the parking lot in the dark at
            8AM?

            I'm a bit of a purist, wanting the sun to be at "high
            noon" at noontime
            and the sunrise and sunset roughly symmetric around that
            moment.  It is
            a tiny and ideological thing, so I get it that nobody else
            cares.

        Agreed that noon. 'high noon' is when the sun is at the top of
        the sky.
        And we have. Or at least probably have any number of simple
        tech fixes to get  a lot of sunshine through the day for any
        given location. such that noon at *35° 41' 29.5584'' N and
        105° 56' 39.0588'' W*. For Santa Fe, NM
        means that sensors and some kind of geo-location hack for
        clocks, computers etc know to make adjustments through out the
        year to make sure noon means the sun is pretty close to the
        top of the sky on a y axis for those coordinates.
        lol but I have a feeling words like: probabilities,
        statistically even, Y-axis, optimal, random, and simply give
        us enough F'n sunshine. For the white house would make to many
        peoples eyes glaze over. just getting to have one or the other
        is a pretty good solid step. Dynamic Time adjustments can come
        along shortly.
        What's kind of funny is Arizona has been quietly sitting
        around going  we're working just fine, you don't need to...ok
        how long is this weirdness going to keep going.
        I wonder how many tongs got bitten on to not do a told you so.
        and how many more going to be pretty sore for quite a while
        if/when it passes.

            but... whatever... I have very few schedules enforced on
            me, and those
            that are are generally not as arbitrary as the MDT/DST
            differences.

            > Now it just needs to get passed the court jester and man
            who looks and
            > sounds like a constipated turtle: Mconnel.
            >
            > Gives me a little hope for UBI and a NHS.
            >
            I'd like to think that a unanimous decision like this
            might help break
            up some of the corrosion in the system keeping it locked
            up, but I think
            the GOP (goofy old party) has too much invested in things
            that the UBI
            and NHS would confront.

            LOL I like how you think. And alas, probably right.

        I googled how many places don't have a summer or winter clock:
        a lot don't. Is this graph right that Japan noped out of a
        summer and winter clock system?
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_by_country
        so what I'm reading is two clocks is limited to only a few
        places and the rest of the globe is working pretty well with
        one type of clock? coolness!

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