Formal logic is not a god but exists independently of nervous systems. A -> B <-> -B -> -A
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Apr 1, 2022, 9:57 AM Nicholas Thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Isn’t it the case that, in some sense, the subjects are being good > Bayesian‘s in that they are taking a count of the priors. I know that’s > wrong, but you see what I mean. It’s one of those puzzles of the form if > elephants had wings, and wings convey flight, then elephants could fly? > Right? The nice thing about Peirce is that he saw logic, not as a God, but > as the result of the functioning of the elemental operators of the nervous > system. Nick. > > Sent from my Dumb Phone > > On Apr 1, 2022, at 7:24 AM, Eric Charles <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I mean.... presumably AFTER reading the second option, the participants > understood the first option to be "a bank teller who is not an activist". > > The most notable thing about the study is how shitty psychological > research is in general. It should be impossible to publish those results > without some accompanying "qualitative" research exploring how the > participants understood the question. Whether my interpretation is right > or wrong, we should not be in the position of speculating blindly. > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 6:39 PM Nicholas Thompson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> I am still without a computer, but will try to dictate more precisely, >> because I am going stir crazy not being able to communicate with friam. >> There is a huge literature in philosophy and cognitive science in which >> scientists ask people to make inferences and then fall over themselves >> laughing when their subjects make inferences that are not correct according >> to formal logic. Most of the examples that are familiar to me involved >> abduction which formal logicians seem to regard as a fallacy but which >> Peirce regards as a formally correct form of logic that is both >> probabilistic and weak. Here is an example from sobers book, Ockhams razors >> >> Linda is 31 years old, single, outspoken and very bright. She majored in >> philosophy. As a student she was deeply concerned with issues of >> discrimination and social justice, and also participated in anti-nuclear >> demonstrations. Philosophers asked subjects which of the following >> statements is more probable: One Linda is a bank teller. Two jLinda is a >> bank teller and is active in the feminist movement. When subjects answer >> the latter, the philosophers fall all over themselves laughing because a >> conjunction can never be larger than its conjuncts. >> >> Analytical philosophy aside, what do we suppose is going on here.? I >> think the subjects have already abducted That the probability that Linda is >> a bank teller is vanishingly small, And so have rejected the Premises of >> the problem. Any wiser thoughts? >> >> Best my slurred speech and fat thumbs could do! Thanks for your patience. >> Nick. >> >> >> Sent from my Dumb Phone >> >> .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: >> 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >> > > .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: > 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > > .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: > 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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