Well, hypocrisy is not an argument. Our reach exceeds our grasp, is all. C
On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 12:53 PM glen <[email protected]> wrote: > What's a bit bizarre about Sarbajit's accusation of hypocrisy is the > overwhelming diversity of US Government components. It would make sense to > accuse a single agency, say, the FDA of something like hypocrisy. But even > there, we have different regimes ran by different people and there's a > turnover of individuals within the affiliated organizations. > > I suppose this is the heart of the "stare decisis" arguments against > willy-nilly overturning "precedent" and cross administration changes like > Trump rejecting the nuclear deal with Iran. It reminds me of the Citizens > United ruling and the false equivalence between national debt/deficit and > household debt. > > Can a materially open thing like a (somewhat) representative government be > *hypocritical*? What is hypocrisy, really? > > > On 7/3/22 18:23, [email protected] wrote: > > Sarbajit, > > > > Could you post materials on the Guttmacher dispute and the science > behind it? > > > > I am guessing that this is all new to us. > > > > As to hypocrisy, the term is only appropriate to a unified system, > usually a person. But perhaps the metaphor works the other way around. > Perhaps people are just badly integrated systems, hence sin in all its > form, deception, hypocrisy, loving thy neighbor too well, and all of that! > So instead of saying that governments are sort of like people, we might say > that people are sort of like governments. > > > > N > > > > Nick Thompson > > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ < > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> > > > > *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Sarbajit Roy > > *Sent:* Saturday, July 2, 2022 2:57 AM > > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > [email protected]> > > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] self-care > > > > The hypocrisy of the US govts is amazing. > > > > For decades they have been desperately promoting pill based self induced > abortions as "safe" abortions in India and Latin America through their > puppets like the Guttmacher Institiute and by using misrepresentations and > outright lies. > > > > These pills are highly toxic / carcinogenic and Guttmacher was caught > red handed by us for using fake accounts on Wikipedia to shape the "self > induced abortion" article to depict it as safe and as an at-home remedy. We > got Guttmacher delisted in India for about a year, but they made their way > back through the USAID RMNCHA programs used to bribe foreign government > servants to shape policy > > > > Sarbajit > > > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 8:52 PM glen <[email protected] <mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > In the aftermath of the activist Justices overturning RvW, this > popped up in my feed: > > > > How to Give Yourself an Abortion > > https://jewishcurrents.org/how-to-give-yourself-an-abortion < > https://jewishcurrents.org/how-to-give-yourself-an-abortion> > > > > I remain torn on the issue of self-care. And lots of energy was > added to my oscillators with the whole "horse dewormer" thing for COVID-19. > (Yes, I'm poking fun both at the people who bought veterinary ivermectin > and the people who used the disgusting sneer "horse dewormer".) To boot, > this post came up this morning about a homeopathic packet sent home with > the patient after surgery: > https://centerforinquiry.salsalabs.org/2022cfimidyearemailversion11 < > https://centerforinquiry.salsalabs.org/2022cfimidyearemailversion11>. > (Placebo is a thing, despite Blumner's write-off.) > > > > Nick is fond of asking people whether they take multivitamins or > not. And while it's true most experts claim that *healthy* people just pee > them out. *Who* amongst us actually qualifies as "healthy"? What does > "health" even mean? That's not an idle or rhetorical question. Am I > "healthy", despite the excruciating chronic pain in my shoulders, neck, and > lower back? Despite my sporadic debilitating migraines? Despite my now > abated follicular lymphoma? Sure, I *seem* healthy because I can do > pull-ups, shovel dirt, drink 5 pints without a hangover, and maintain a > full-time job with a bit of time for hobbies. But what you see from the > outside doesn't reflect what I feel on the inside, which is like a sick > puppy where the slightest bad event would topple me into the "disabled" > category. "Healthy" is at best a misinformation concept, at worst a > malinformation concept: > https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mdm-incident-response-guide_508.pdf > > < > https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mdm-incident-response-guide_508.pdf > > > > > > Sneer all you want at the new-age descendant reading self-help > books, cutting out magazine ads for their "vision board", or > self-administering veterinary de-fetus pills, but there's something > important, here. Fad diets, bottled water, alcoholism or pregnancy as an > indicator for moral failure, etc. all point at that thing, whatever that > thing is. > > > > In that context, self-administered abortion is legit. > > -- > ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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