The largest public infrastructure project I remember in New Mexico was the 
Railrunner train track installation, and even that involved decades of public 
debt.
Population-dense regions are interesting to me because big projects are 
possible because there is a tax base.  Bay bridge, BART, high voltage power 
distribution under the bay, bike paths around the bay, 10 gigabit networking, 
etc.   Someday there may need to be desalinization rigs in the bay.   All of 
this is conceivable with millions of people to pay for it.   Being spread-out 
means more crude oil for asphalt.

From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Gary Schiltz
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 9:25 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] dystopian vision(s)

I wonder what proportion of people worldwide, like me, see "urban" places as 
mainly, at best, necessary evils. Maybe it's mainly an American phenomenon, 
maybe a bourgeoisie idea for only those who can afford land.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 8:23 AM glen 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
At the top of my LIFO stack of dystopian things has been "The Line":

https://www.neom.com/en-us/regions/theline

Pushed by a ruthless monarchy, funded by fossil fuels, bulldozing indigenous 
lands, ... yikes.

But I now have a new one on the stack:

https://www.mojo.vision/mojo-lens/

Unlike bin Salman, these guys seem well-intentioned. But sheesh. I can't even 
imagine wearing that.

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